[InOne]

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

If it is just over this though, it seems like a very drastic thing to do, as the mother of two children.

Well we can't really say the pressure she was under, and Hospitals are always getting a bashing here anyway. Plus the fact it was to do with the Royals made it 10x worse. She was a Catholic apparently, so she must've been extreme pressure she was under to take her own life. What is annoying is that the DJ's seem to be getting more support and sympathy than the family of the Woman who killed herself.

[InOne]

I know this is a Daily Mail link but it tells you a bit more about the Woman herself: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...evastated.html

[Mrluvaluva]

The Australian radio station has announced it is to donate £320,000 to the family of Jacintha Saldanha. I don't know what to think about that. Money to help her family, or ease the station's conscience?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

The Australian radio station has announced it is to donate £320,000 to the family of Jacintha Saldanha. I don't know what to think about that. Money to help her family, or ease the station's conscience?

Hmmm dunno, can't say I saw anything genuine from the interviews they gave. It does seem to have become all about making them feel better.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

Well we can't really say the pressure she was under, and Hospitals are always getting a bashing here anyway. Plus the fact it was to do with the Royals made it 10x worse. She was a Catholic apparently, so she must've been extreme pressure she was under to take her own life. What is annoying is that the DJ's seem to be getting more support and sympathy than the family of the Woman who killed herself.

I understand that and of course I have sympathy for her family. The reason it seems like the DJ's are getting more sympathy is because they're also the ones who are being blamed for her killing herself. Can you really blame them for something she chose to do herself though?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

I understand that and of course I have sympathy for her family. The reason it seems like the DJ's are getting more sympathy is because they're also the ones who are being blamed for her killing herself. Can you really blame them for something she chose to do herself though?

They obviously can't be entirely blamed. But we also can't just dismiss the fact they played a part either...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

They obviously can't be entirely blamed. But we also can't just dismiss the fact they played a part either...

If anything (imo) and it was the same with the Russell Brand/Jonathon Ross thing, it should be the radio stations producers who should be taking the radio stations portion of the blame, the calls weren't played live, they had to be approved by producers who's job it should be to think about possible consequences of these type of things. No one realistically could have predicted this outcome but at the very least they should have thought about the nurses getting in huge trouble and possibly losing their jobs.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

If anything (imo) and it was the same with the Russell Brand/Jonathon Ross thing, it should be the radio stations producers who should be taking the radio stations portion of the blame, the calls weren't played live, they had to be approved by producers who's job it should be to think about possible consequences of these type of things. No one realistically could have predicted this outcome but at the very least they should have thought about the nurses getting in huge trouble and possibly losing their jobs.

Why have the DJ's not blamed the producers then? Why are they making teary interviews on TV if it's all the producers faults?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

Why have the DJ's not blamed the producers then? Why are they making teary interviews on TV if it's all the producers faults?

Probably cos they're hoping not to lose their jobs?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

Probably cos they're hoping not to lose their jobs?

But they'd have a better chance if they told the truth... (If that is the truth)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

But they'd have a better chance if they told the truth... (If that is the truth)

hasn't it already been stated somewhere that it was not a live call and had been approved by producers? I could swear I read that somewhere but maybe I'm wrong

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

hasn't it already been stated somewhere that it was not a live call and had been approved by producers? I could swear I read that somewhere but maybe I'm wrong

I dunno, try look for a source LOL But I'm sure if that was the case the DJ's wouldn't in the spotlight

[Livia]

In Australia I understand you need permission from the person who's voice you're broadcasting, in order to broadcast it, and they did not have that permission. And while I don't believe the DJs should be wholly blamed, they must take a part of the blame because they're the one who carried out the "joke".

[Niamh.]

Here look :

“I don’t know the process,” Greig said when asked to expand on the procedure behind a prank call. She said there is a “whole team” of people working on the show, but remained vague on if the team consisted of producers and lawyers employed by the station.

Christian described the vague team as “people far above us”.

“We are not privy to what happens to this call,” he said and added that the call, like all others, went through the same process and they simply waited for final approval, which they got.


http://www.pilotafrica.com/2012/12/1...omment-page-1/

[Kizzy]

Because they actually made the call...
However the decision to transmit was not ultimately theirs.
If they themselves did not see the ramifications of this those whose job it is to failed also.

[Kizzy]

Because they actually made the call...
However the decision to transmit was not ultimately theirs.
If they themselves did not see the ramifications of this those whose job it is to failed also.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

Here look :

“I don’t know the process,” Greig said when asked to expand on the procedure behind a prank call. She said there is a “whole team” of people working on the show, but remained vague on if the team consisted of producers and lawyers employed by the station.

Christian described the vague team as “people far above us”.

“We are not privy to what happens to this call,” he said and added that the call, like all others, went through the same process and they simply waited for final approval, which they got.


http://www.pilotafrica.com/2012/12/1...omment-page-1/

Hmmm, I think Vague is definitely the right word for it.

[Niamh.]

I would assume stuff like that would have to be approved though.

[Nedusa]

Look it doesn't matter who said who had permission or who sanctioned it or who allowed it ...it's not the point, the point is it was a prank telephone call aimed at generating a bit of laughter and amusement it was well intentioned NOT malicious. Had it gone well i'm sure the Radio Station would be promoting the two presenters.

The woman's suicide is co-incidental in the extreme and could never be as a consequence of a phone call to someone else which she picked up. This is all madness, why is this story still a story, it is a sad situation for the family, the woman clearly had issues and was probably going to end her life sooner rather than later.

The fact she answered the phone at work wouldn't have changed that, the prank call was an unfortunate untimely coincidence and should not be dressed up into the major news story that it has become.........!!!

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Look it doesn't matter who said who had permission or who sanctioned it or who allowed it ...it's not the point, the point is it was a prank telephone call aimed at generating a bit of laughter and amusement it was well intentioned NOT malicious. Had it gone well i'm sure the Radio Station would be promoting the two presenters.

The woman's suicide is co-incidental in the extreme and could never be as a consequence of a phone call to someone else which she picked up. This is all madness, why is this story still a story, it is a sad situation for the family, the woman clearly had issues and was probably going to end her life sooner rather than later.
The fact she answered the phone at work wouldn't have changed that, the prank call was an unfortunate untimely coincidence and should not be dressed up into the major news story that it has become.........!!!

And here we go again... How did she 'clearly have issues'? Bit of a ridiculous thing to say

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

And here we go again... How did she 'clearly have issues'? Bit of a ridiculous thing to say

Yes your quite correct , literally millions of normal people without issues answer the phone every day and then go and jump in front of a train...!!!

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Yes your quite correct , literally millions of normal people without issues answer the phone every day and then go and jump in front of a train...!!!

Come on, you're being silly now. You know the circumstances. Stop trying to deflect.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Look it doesn't matter who said who had permission or who sanctioned it or who allowed it ...it's not the point, the point is it was a prank telephone call aimed at generating a bit of laughter and amusement it was well intentioned NOT malicious. Had it gone well i'm sure the Radio Station would be promoting the two presenters.

The woman's suicide is co-incidental in the extreme and could never be as a consequence of a phone call to someone else which she picked up. This is all madness, why is this story still a story, it is a sad situation for the family, the woman clearly had issues and was probably going to end her life sooner rather than later.

The fact she answered the phone at work wouldn't have changed that, the prank call was an unfortunate untimely coincidence and should not be dressed up into the major news story that it has become.........!!!

Well, as with all pranks and practical jokes, it depends on how it is received by the person having the prank played on them, surely. And saying the woman probably would have ended her life sooner or later is pure conjecture on your part. Perhaps she had other stuff going on, or perhaps not. You don't know any more about her state of mind than I do. Fact is this prank pushed her over the edge.

This story is still a story because a woman is dead for some cheap laughs. I think that is reason enough why it is a major news story. Of course, if you don't think it's worth discussing because it's a non-event, don't discuss it.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

It's all very easy to say stuff like this but how do you actually know? It seems to always be the excuse when stuff like that happens.

Just seems a massive overreaction for the situation, thats all. Made worse because she was a mother, surely she wouldnt (in the 'right' frame of mind) kill herself over something as trivial as this. Yes, she may have been sacked/disciplined..surely her kids having a mother is more important though?

And if she thought this was something to commit suicide over and it WAS all down to this prank and nothing else, that says (to me anyway) that she wasnt mentally stable to begin with.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Just seems a massive overreaction for the situation, thats all. Made worse because she was a mother, surely she wouldnt (in the 'right' frame of mind) kill herself over something as trivial as this. Yes, she may have been sacked/disciplined..surely her kids having a mother is more important though?

And if she thought this was something to commit suicide over and it WAS all down to this prank and nothing else, that says (to me anyway) that she wasnt mentally stable to begin with.

All the aspects didn't help probably. The prank, the fact it was to do with the Royals, she got into serious trouble with work and then it became global news. As it said, she would've felt such shame. Also in the article there is no mentions of any previous mental illness or home troubles. She was a popular well liked person. It doesn't always take mentally unstable people to commit suicide like that if a situation arises.