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Irene Pearson · 13-12-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Because they are the rules of their religion. Some religions will not marry people outside that particular faith, some religions will not marry divorced people... Do you suggest that divorced heterosexuals are being disciminated against?

Absolutely

Marsh. · 12-12-2012, 10:50 PM

Yes, the RC's are against it.

That's the main reason the Church of England was created by Henry the 8th.

lily. · 12-12-2012, 10:52 PM

Are the RCs still against it?

Redway · 12-12-2012, 10:55 PM

Yeah.

CofE isn't exactly all that keen on it either but it tends to be more lenient and sympathise with people going through marital hardships.

Incidentally, I'm pretty sure CofE allows divorce in certain circumstances, whereas the R.C. church is completely against it. Which is quite ironic considering Jesus actually allowed divorce in the case of adultery in the Bible :S

Niamh. · 12-12-2012, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lily.

Are the RCs still against it?

Yes, you can't get married in a Catholic Church if you've been divorced. My mom is getting remarried next year and she has to have a civil ceremony

Kizzy · 13-12-2012, 12:49 AM

The whole point of following a religion was accepting that certain rules and provisos are set in stone? I don't follow a faith as they have these, why would anyone want to.
Changing and 'evolving' can't happen if you wish to follow a faith do so, If you wish to live your life another way fine start a new faith, it worked for henry...,

Stu · 13-12-2012, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

The whole point of following a religion was accepting that certain rules and provisos are set in stone? I don't follow a faith as they have these, why would anyone want to.

I literally can't understand what you are saying here. Is English your second language?

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Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

Changing and 'evolving' can't happen

Yes they can.

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Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

start a new faith

Like this.

There are dozens of well known variations and break offs of the Christian faith and thousands of other lesser known, whacked out variations that put more of less emphasis on various parts of the belief structure. Some schools of thought accept doctrines that others don't.

There is no universally correct path that has 'THIS IS THE ONE' emblazoned in a neon arrow that points in the doors of the church.

Hence I don't know why people at the top of this thread were mentioning that you can't pick and match your faith. Yes you can. It's how virtually every one was formed. There is no right, correct way to interpret the Bible. Only those who believe their way is the right, correct way.

It's impossible to follow down to the bone without running into a gas shower of contradictions.

MTVN · 13-12-2012, 12:57 AM

Kind of simplistic to say that Henry VIII just set up the CofE so he could get a divorce, there was the small matter of the Reformation that had been sweeping across Europe, Christians all over the West had been breaking with the Catholic Church

Kizzy · 13-12-2012, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by King Moonracer

Kind of simplistic to say that Henry VIII just set up the CofE so he could get a divorce, there was the small matter of the Reformation that had been sweeping across Europe, Christians all over the West had been breaking with the Catholic Church

So the alternative was to rewrite the bible?

MTVN · 13-12-2012, 01:08 AM

Who rewrote the Bible?

Marsh. · 13-12-2012, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by King Moonracer

Who rewrote the Bible?

JK Rowling. Haven't you read it?

Kizzy · 13-12-2012, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by King Moonracer

Who rewrote the Bible?

King James

Kizzy · 13-12-2012, 01:28 AM

No English is not my second language.
Are you having trouble understanding me, would you like me to dumb down my point?....
If a church won't accept to carry out your marriage find one who will.

Stu · 13-12-2012, 01:38 AM

I would if my coke dealer picked up the phone.

Kizzy · 13-12-2012, 01:20 PM

Because the bible was written before the discrimination laws?...
If you don't like it don't follow it simples...
Everyone would be much happier if they didn't as far as I can see.

Irene Pearson · 13-12-2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

Because the bible was written before the discrimination laws?...
If you don't like it don't follow it simples...
Everyone would be much happier if they didn't as far as I can see.

Yes that is exactly why church attendance has diminished to an all time low.

Livia · 13-12-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Irene Pearson

Yes that is exactly why church attendance has diminished to an all time low.

My synagogue's never been busier.

Irene Pearson · 13-12-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

My synagogue's never been busier.

Sorry I was referring to the Christian faith .

Livia · 13-12-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Irene Pearson

Sorry I was referring to the Christian faith .

Oh I see. So Judaism is okay then? Not marrying gay people... it's just the Christians you're mad at?

thesheriff443 · 13-12-2012, 01:30 PM

kizzy why are all your post's double?

Kizzy · 13-12-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by triplexxxmas

kizzy why are all your post's double?

I'm posting from a 3ds, it's quite good but sometimes duplicates the post.
I delete them when I notice them.

Livia · 13-12-2012, 02:15 PM

You've got to pick your battles Irene and stop getting outraged on other people's behalf. It's a massive waste of energy.

I notice with some amusement that it is always the atheists, agnostics and other assorted "non-believers" who seem to be the ones with all the ideas about changing religions.

Irene Pearson · 13-12-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

You've got to pick your battles Irene and stop getting outraged on other people's behalf. It's a massive waste of energy.

I notice with some amusement that it is always the atheists, agnostics and other assorted "non-believers" who seem to be the ones with all the ideas about changing religions.

Why do you assume that I am any of the above and am outraged fighting "other people's " battles?

Livia · 13-12-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Irene Pearson

Why do you assume that I am any of the above and am outraged fighting "other people's " battles?

I am not assuming, the clue was in the words you wrote. The church should change, everyone should be allowed to marry or do whatever they want, divorced people are being discriminated against... Isn't that what you're saying then?

Irene Pearson · 13-12-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

I am not assuming, the clue was in the words you wrote. The church should change, everyone should be allowed to marry or do whatever they want, divorced people are being discriminated against... Isn't that what you're saying then?

From that you assume I am agnostic etc. etc.? So you believe that everyone but the church should be heartily "discouraged" from discriminatory actions?

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