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Niamh. · 13-12-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by King Moonracer

Well I suppose the problem is that the CofE are still technically the official Church in this country and we don't have complete separation of church and state, that makes the gay marriage question even more difficult because they are seen as conducting marriages on behalf of the state, and if they're against marrying same sex couples than it's problematic to legalise it

That's a good point too Matt

Marsh. · 13-12-2012, 02:21 PM

That's the nail on the head Irene, Christianity THEMSELVES have changed down the centuries. They haven't been forced to change.

If they are forced to include something from an outside party against their will then it ceases being a religion and set of beliefs that they choose to be a part of/believe in.

Effectively, non-Christians forcing Christians to accept and believe something they don't. Not really a religion then.

Irene Pearson · 13-12-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

No one is suggesting you aren't entitled to your say, Irene. It's just rather amusing that by demanding Christians change their rules and not that all religions do, you make your argument look a little weak. I have never studied Islam but I think if one religion is made to allow gays to marry, then I think all religions should, including Islam. Or your are discriminating. Isn't that kind of clear to you?

Will you please tell me why my response to this post was deleted?

InOne · 13-12-2012, 02:24 PM

Think you're a bit paranoid Irene... You're not that important that mods would go around deleting your posts.

Marc · 13-12-2012, 02:26 PM

Whoops. Sorry x

Irene Pearson · 13-12-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow

That's the nail on the head Irene, Christianity THEMSELVES have changed down the centuries. They haven't been forced to change.

If they are forced to include something from an outside party against their will then it ceases being a religion and set of beliefs that they choose to be a part of/believe in.

Effectively, non-Christians forcing Christians to accept and believe something they don't. Not really a religion then.

This came from within the church also Just as the inclusion of women in the priesthood. Wonder what the Pankhursts would make of that. These decisions have been made by males.

Irene Pearson · 13-12-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrooge

Think you're a bit paranoid Irene... You're not that important that mods would go around deleting your posts.

Well Scrooge it was there and then it wasn't. What do you suggest.I'm new to this site.

InOne · 13-12-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Irene Pearson

Well Scrooge it was there and then it wasn't. What do you suggest.I'm new to this site.

You already got told before though nothing was deleted.

Marsh. · 13-12-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Irene Pearson

This came from within the church also Just as the inclusion of women in the priesthood. Wonder what the Pankhursts would make of that. These decisions have been made by males.

But you were talking about Christianity as a whole. That includes more than the CofE.

Marsh. · 13-12-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Irene Pearson

Will you please tell me why my response to this post was deleted?

It wasn't.....

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Originally Posted by Irene Pearson

I'm sorry but your argument does not seem rational. Are you saying that all the worlds religions should have identical dogmas? I really do not understand what you mean. The disparities between different religions are many fold surely? For instance when I have attended our local synagogue the ladies were all seated separately to the gentlemen. This is not so in Christian churches. C of E accepts divorce, Catholics do not. Please try to discuss this without being aggressive because I am genuinely interested and found your sarcasm quite off putting.

Kizzy · 13-12-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by King Moonracer

Well I suppose the problem is that the CofE are still technically the official Church in this country and we don't have complete separation of church and state, that makes the gay marriage question even more difficult because they are seen as conducting marriages on behalf of the state, and if they're against marrying same sex couples than it's problematic to legalise it

Don't start quoting sections of the Act of Settlement will you?

Kizzy · 13-12-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrooge

You already got told before though nothing was deleted.

She's right joe something was deleted from this thread.

InOne · 13-12-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow

It wasn't.....

The plot thickens!

Niamh. · 13-12-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

She's right joe something was deleted from this thread.

It wasn't Irenes post though

Irene Pearson · 13-12-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

That's a good point too Matt

. Civil partnership is allowed by the state is this not the next logical progression.Christian churches were behind children being demonised as bastards when born out of wedlock. Why are gay couples children being discriminated against when the church still maintain that it is a sin to be illegitimate. The world evolves peoples conscious awareness expands . There are a lot of gays to whom religion is important , who contribute to their local communities through the church. This all so medieval.

Irene Pearson · 13-12-2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

It wasn't Irenes post though

Sorry I am here, I did post it folks, I did see it and it was deleted. You little monkeys

Niamh. · 13-12-2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Irene Pearson

. Civil partnership is allowed by the state is this not the next logical progression.Christian churches were behind children being demonised as bastards when born out of wedlock. Why are gay couples children being discriminated against when the church still maintain that it is a sin to be illegitimate. The world evolves peoples conscious awareness expands . There are a lot of gays to whom religion is important , who contribute to their local communities through the church. This all so medieval.

I do agree with you but thankfully today, what the church thinks about those kind of things doesn't equal what all of society thinks anymore

Niamh. · 13-12-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Irene Pearson

Sorry I am here, I did post it folks, I did see it and it was deleted. You little monkeys

We're just trying to mess with your head Irene

JK

Kizzy · 13-12-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

It wasn't Irenes post though

Did she not quote the deleted one?
Ah, I don't know then

Marsh. · 13-12-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Irene Pearson

Sorry I am here, I did post it folks, I did see it and it was deleted. You little monkeys

No, it wasn't. I quoted your response to Livia further up the page.

Niamh. · 13-12-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

Did she not quote the deleted one?
Ah, I don't know then

No lol

InOne · 13-12-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

We're just trying to mess with your head Irene

JK

Think it's more her trying to mess with ours

Irene Pearson · 13-12-2012, 02:52 PM

Honestly I swear that it was deleted and has now re-appeared. Back me up Kizzmas you were in on the discussion. I know i'm getting on a bit but that was not a senior moment.Or I hope it wasn't!