[Sticks]

So are you saying everyone who autism should be interned just in case they start killing people?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Sticks

So are you saying everyone who autism should be interned just in case they start killing people?

No I am not.

But he did not have enought care
he could Not Hug his mother.


And due to his mental state in 3mins
he could kill 4 , 5 and 6 year olds without a blink.

[lily.]

Anonymous Targets Westboro Baptist (Again) Over Threat To Picket Newtown

The hacktivist network Anonymous has released what it claims to be a cache of personal details of members of the Westboro Baptist Church, after members of the controversial religious group said on Twitter that they would picket Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, the scene of a mass shooting where 26 children and adults were killed on Friday.

Supporters of Anonymous, a subversive community of digital activists and internet trolls, appear to have taken down the extremist group’s website, most likely through a distributed denial of service, or DDoS attack. They also posted a YouTube video threatening to “destroy” the group.

Westboro is a small extremist group based in Topeka, Kansas, notorious for picketing the funerals of soldiers and victims of shootings with tastelessly-worded placards, claiming tragic events are God’s punishment for the existence of homosexuality.

A document posted on Pastebin earlier today claims to reveal physical addresses of the group’s founding Phelps family, telephone numbers, even a social security number, as well as background information on the group and its close coterie of members. Anonymous supporters typically refer to this information as a target’s “dox,” though it is unclear how public these personal details already were for Westboro’s members, given their controversial activities. Organizers with Anonymous are meanwhile encouraging supporters via Twitter to bombard the Kansas group with calls “all night and all day.”

A representative of Westboro, possibly its regular spokeswoman Shirley Phelps-Roper, also carried out a Reddit IAmA, or “Ask Me Anything,” earlier Sunday under the nickname GodSentCTShooter, not surprisingly meeting very few questions and plenty of irritation from Redditors.

Westboro’s apparently thick-skinned representatives almost seem to be baiting the wide community of web-savvy Internet users, a constituency that sees some overlap between a subversive network like Anonymous and discussion forums like Reddit.

That may be because this isn’t the first time Westboro and Anonymous have clashed. In February 2011 a supporter of Anonymous took part in a radio debate with Shirley Phelps-Roper, during which a small group of hackers surprised Roper by taking down several parts of Westboro’s site during the show.

Amid the more radical forms of dissent against Westboro from Anonymous, tens of thousands of people have signed two online, White House petitions against the group. Both seek to legally recognize Westboro as a hate group, its rhetoric so damaging that it can no longer be classified as “free speech,” but “hate speech.”

Source: Forbes.com

[lily.]

Youtube video

Hello, Westboro Baptist Church.

Allow us to introduce ourselves. We are Anonymous.

As you may not have acknowledged our existence, we, on the otherhand, have recognized yours. We have seen your depraved methods of disseminating your message of hate throughout The United States of America. We have witnessed you defaming the memories of those who sacrificed themselves for the security of our nation, disrupting the peace of the educational environment within high schools and universities, breeding hatred within the fragile minds of your own next of kin, desecrating the name of God by protesting in the proximity of churches and synagogues, and mangling the biblical text to conform in accordance with your malevolent cause.

Your pseudo-faith is abhorrent, and your leaders, repugnant. Your impact and cause is hazardous to the lives of millions and you fail to see the wrong in promoting the deaths of innocent people. You are self-appointed servants of God who rewrite the words of His sacred scripture to adhere to your prejudice. Your hatred supersedes your faith, and you use faith to promote your hatred.

Since your one-dimensional thought protocol will conform not to any modern logic, we will not debate, argue, or attempt to reason with you. Instead, we have unanimously deemed your organization to be harmful to the population of The United States of America, and have therefore decided to execute an agenda of action which will progressively dismantle your institution of deceitful pretext and extreme bias, and cease when your zealotry runs dry. We recognize you as serious opponents, and do not expect our campaign to terminate in a short period of time. Attrition is our weapon, and we will waste no time, money, effort, and enjoyment, in tearing your resolve into pieces, as with exposing the incongruity of your distorted faith.

Anonymous possesses a plethora of information within our network about the many divisions of Christianity and numerous other religious doctrines. Many of us are versed in the biblical text, and we can identify each and every of your violations of scripture. You abuse the Holy Bible which you do not fully comprehend and know not of the thousands of authors to impose upon other people when you can simply coalesce with your loved ones and live in the manner you deem plausible. You engage in reciprocal fornication with another man and preach adultery as a sin. You, Shirley Lynn Phelps-Roper violated Deuteronomy 5:18. As a result, your son Sam is the living, breathing proof of your act of simple loneliness. Simply put, it takes not a genius to realize an arrogant woman's loose moral string, and its predilection to progressively wither and fray.

From the time you have received this message, our attack protocol has past been executed and your downfall is underway. Do not attempt to delude yourselves into thinking you can escape our reach, for we are everywhere, and all-seeing, in the same sense as God. We are a body of individuals who fight for a purpose higher than self, and seek to bring the malevolent intent of the malefactors to light.

We will not allow you to corrupt the minds of America with your seeds of hatred. We will not allow you to inspire aggression to the social factions which you deem inferior. We will render you obsolete. We will destroy you. We are coming.

Everyone is equal.

We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not Forgive.
We do not Forget.
Expect us.

[Bluerang1]

Originally Posted by arista

What are you on about?

Where did they get the Goth thing from? Who said he sought revenge on the teachers? Who said his mother taught him how to shoot?

They shouldn't make news up with a situation like this.

[Shaun]

-would find it a lot easier to appreciate Anonymous if they didn't love themselves, take themselves so seriously and adorn themselves with the most ridiculous of rhetoric and slogans-

[arista]

Originally Posted by Bluerang1

Where did they get the Goth thing from? Who said he sought revenge on the teachers? Who said his mother taught him how to shoot?

They shouldn't make news up with a situation like this.

Adam Lanza had autism

His Mother took him to the Shooting Range
as it was the only way she could bond with him.

He Would Not Hug Her.

[Jamie585]

I put a fb status saying How stupid it is that guns are even on sale in the US and this is a reply i got, thought?

"your right it is a horrible, but you have no idea when it comes to guns . i understand your angry about the deaths, but just because one person goes out and does something wrong, doesn't mean that they should punish every one else for owning and buying one. including a my self and allot of people i know personally enjoy being able to shoot and own a gun."

[Shaun]

ask them if they've heard of paintball. much more fun. much less fatal.

[Marc]

If somebody was so adament on killing people, they would find a way of doing it, guns laws or no gun laws. The guy was messed up

[Jamie585]

Havn't a full on argument with them now

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Marczipan

If somebody was so adament on killing people, they would find a way of doing it, guns laws or no gun laws. The guy was messed up

It'd be nice though if it were a little less easy for him to do it, right?

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Turboman

-would find it a lot easier to appreciate Anonymous if they didn't love themselves, take themselves so seriously and adorn themselves with the most ridiculous of rhetoric and slogans-

To be honest, I don't care about all that. The only thing I care about is seeing people like the WBC getting hit in some form. ngl, I'd rather someone hit them between the eyes with a rifle, but violence never did solve anything.

[lily.]

[Shaun]

STOP POSTING THINGS YOU FOUND THROUGH BILLIE JOE YOU SEE-THROUGH TRAMP <3

lol jk luvd ur xmas card x

[Jamie585]

Originally Posted by Marczipan

If somebody was so adament on killing people, they would find a way of doing it, guns laws or no gun laws. The guy was messed up

I agree, but If the killer didn't have a gun, the death count would be much lower

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Turboman

STOP POSTING THINGS YOU FOUND THROUGH BILLIE JOE YOU SEE-THROUGH TRAMP <3

lol jk luvd ur xmas card x

I licked it speshully for you.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Turboman

It'd be nice though if it were a little less easy for him to do it, right?

Well of course, I'm not saying it shouldn't be made harder I was saying if you're that messed up, you'll end up doing it anyway you possibly can.

[Jamie585]

Originally Posted by Marczipan

Well of course, I'm not saying it shouldn't be made harder I was saying if you're that messed up, you'll end up doing it anyway you possibly can.

Yeah i guess

[Jamie585]

What are your thoughts on hunting? For or against?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Marczipan

If somebody was so adament on killing people, they would find a way of doing it, guns laws or no gun laws. The guy was messed up

Yeah and that sounds lovely but you know I'm still going to side with the idea that less guns means less people killing each other. Even if some people will still 'find a way'.

[MTVN]

Don't think it's simple as "ban guns" though, sure the pro-gun lobby are pretty dumb and the idea that arming more people would prevent stuff like this is ridiculous, but it's unrealistic to expect America to Europeanise its gun laws. Even if you think the second amendment is pretty dumb the right to bear arms is something that's enshrined in the USA's history and it is a big part of their culture, it's not all just NRA & Republican crackpots who oppose gun control. Plus I know it's an awful cliche but "guns don't kill people, people do" is true to some extent; you can try to get rid of guns but that will never rid people of the mental state that they're in to contemplate carrying out something like this.

[lily.]

ngl, I'd have at least one gun if I lived in the USA. There are too many guns in circulation now, and the only way to protect yourself and your family is to arm yourself too.

I'm glad I don't live there, but I do understand why people want guns for protection.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by King Moonracer

Don't think it's simple as "ban guns" though, sure the pro-gun lobby are pretty dumb and the idea that arming more people would prevent stuff like this is ridiculous, but it's unrealistic to expect America to Europeanise its gun laws. Even if you think the second amendment is pretty dumb the right to bear arms is something that's enshrined in the USA's history and it is a big part of their culture, it's not all just NRA & Republican crackpots who oppose gun control. Plus I know it's an awful cliche but "guns don't kill people, people do" is true to some extent; you can try to get rid of guns but that will never rid people of the mental state that they're in to contemplate carrying out something like this.

Well obviously the main argument to come out of this is the need for the US health service to provide free mental health assessment and so on. The anti-gun folk aren't just lobbying to get guns banned and then just hope for the best and nobody feels murderous again.

I'm not sure of the relevance of American history either. That's a pretty weak claim - it's enshrined in our culture. Times change. If this part of history - where the 2nd amendment arose because of the need of the militia to defend oneself during civil war and foreign invasion, not 2012 suburbia - can be just tossed aside I think it's for the best.

[MTVN]

What I mean with American history & culture is that it'd be incredibly hard to push any gun control legislation through & it isn't just right wing fanatics opposing gun laws because they have a fetish for firearms. The gun ownership rate in the States is far higher than anywhere else in the world, among developed countries there are twice as many guns per hundred people than the country in second (Switzerland) and there's about 9 guns for every 10 Americans I believe. While the huge number of guns does mean more incidents like this it also does mean that the US has far more law abiding citizens with guns, and that guns play a much bigger part in American life and culture, than anywhere else in the world. Basically the US is unique for its gun culture, and it isn't something that can just be easily eradicated or tossed aside by a firearm ban