[Omah]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I was very interested thankyou joey I have been researching for the past hour on the subject haha.

That'll make you an expert, too, then .....

Your reasoned points are what most gravitate towards rather than 'cuttings' it always annoys me when there are snippits of article with no opinion from the OP.

"Opinions" are often unsubstantiated assertions or poorly punctuated plagiarism which serve only to intimidate or impress the gullible.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Omah

The problem is that "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" and while you paraphrased the gleanings from your "uncle", you repeated them with so many spelling and grammatical mistakes (and possibly technical, too) that I, for one was not taken in, but the more gullible FMs may have inferred from your pomposity that you knew what you were talking about.

As for "your own words", I suspect, again, that for the most part that you are merely regurgitating those of others without recourse to the courtesy of disclosure and acknowledgement.

As for "learning in life", do not try to teach your grandma to suck eggs.

Agreed on this ocassion Omah

[Kizzy]

"Opinions" are often unsubstantiated assertions or poorly punctuated plagiarism which serve only to intimidate or impress the gullible.

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Opinions based on relevant, reputable information backed by supporting evidence is never intimidating omah, unless you are arrogant enough to profess not to need them?
Are you impressed?

[QUOTE=Omah;5824520]That'll make you an expert, too, then .....


Not at all... It just makes me less ignorant to the facts omah.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Omah

The problem is that "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" and while you paraphrased the gleanings from your "uncle", you repeated them with so many spelling and grammatical mistakes (and possibly technical, too) that I, for one was not taken in, but the more gullible FMs may have inferred from your pomposity that you knew what you were talking about.

As for "your own words", I suspect, again, that for the most part that you are merely regurgitating those of others without recourse to the courtesy of disclosure and acknowledgement.

As for "learning in life", do not try to teach your grandma to suck eggs.

You are really being offensive now,kindly stop and ignore me,I do not force you or anyone else to read what I post.
Had I quoted and used my Uncles words Omah, the post would have been filled with likely words even you may not understand as to strong detailed medical terminology.

I don't ever try to teach anyone anything, or pull them up on unimportant typing errors or the odd spelling error.
I get no complaints as to my Uni work when I submit it and rarely get pulled up as to grammar and spelling too there.
As for being pompous, that is one of the last things I am.

I feel you should try to stop derailing this thread and getting at me.
For some reason you have a dislike of myself and being totally frank as to that I can tell you I won't ever lose a single second of sleep worrying as to that.

However, have you anything more to say as to Paul Gascoigne and his illness or have you hijacked this thread just to be offensive to me personally?

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Opinions based on relevant, reputable information backed by supporting evidence is never intimidating omah, unless you are arrogant enough to profess not to nee them?
Are you impressed? ip Where is the e:

Where is the "relevant, reputable information backed by supporting evidence" .....

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Omah

That'll make you an expert, too, then .....



"Opinions" are often unsubstantiated assertions or poorly punctuated plagiarism which serve only to intimidate or impress the gullible.

oof sore one -joey's uncle will be along in a second to prove you wrong Omah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My cousins's husband has some ideas too!

[Shaun]

only on TiBB could a thread about Paul Gascoigne deteriorate into petty comments about members' uncles.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Shaun

only on TiBB could a thread about Paul Gascoigne deteriorate into petty comments about members' uncles.

I agree it is ridiculous.
It is why I left my Uncle out of the equation Shaun, my Uncle is not a member and will never be likely.
I don't have to however prove anything to Omah as no one else on the forum has to either, as I am pretty sure you would more than likely not agree with that too.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You are really being offensive now,kindly stop and ignore me,I do not force you or anyone else to read what I post.
Had I quoted and used my Uncles words Omah, the post would have been filled with likely words even you may not understand as to strong detailed medical terminology.

I don't ever try to teach anyone anything, or pull them up on unimportant typing errors or the odd spelling error.
I get no complaints as to my Uni work when I submit it and rarely get pulled up as to grammar and spelling too there.
As for being pompous, that is one of the last things I am.

I feel you should try to stop derailing this thread and getting at me.
For some reason you have a dislike of myself and being totally frank as to that I can tell you I won't ever lose a single second of sleep worrying as to that.

However, have you anything more to say as to Paul Gascoigne and his illness or have you hijacked this thread just to be offensive to me personally?

please don't take it to heart joey - you gave as best you could then the silly bit that your uncle is a consultant

(My uncle is Obama but I don't like to talk of his US foreign policy too much on TiBB)

[Ammi]

..a member has taken the time to ask and learn about something from someone who has valid medical experience, rather than just copy and paste an article...whatever is felt about the topic or Paul Gascoigne himself and his case, I think it should be shown some respect that Joey has done that....

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Omah

Where is the "relevant, reputable information backed by supporting evidence" .....

My word is reputable, not reputable to you but then fact I take little notice of your posts if I am honest but I will always defend myself as is my right when anyone gets at me.
You are just now really and unnecessarily being highly offensive.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You are really being offensive now,kindly stop and ignore me,I do not force you or anyone else to read what I post.
Had I quoted and used my Uncles words Omah, the post would have been filled with likely words even you may not understand as to strong detailed medical terminology.?

I have a biology degree - does that help?

I don't ever try to teach anyone anything, or pull them up on unimportant typing errors or the odd spelling error.
I get no complaints as to my Uni work when I submit it and rarely get pulled up as to grammar and spelling too there.
As for being pompous, that is one of the last things I am.

If you say so .....

I feel you should try to stop derailing this thread and getting at me.
For some reason you have a dislike of myself and being totally frank as to that I can tell you I won't ever lose a single second of sleep worrying as to that.

I belive that YOU derailed the thread by seemingly repeating hearsay from an alleged uncle about cirrhosis, which, AFAIK, had not previously been mentioned on the thread (certainly there was no quote or link).

Originally Posted by joeysteele

However, have you anything more to say as to Paul Gascoigne and his illness or have you hijacked this thread just to be offensive to me personally?

Well, if you're interested, my ex-wife was an alcoholic who cost the NHS tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of pounds in treatment and rehabilitation before she died of multiple organ failure.

Even spending 26 weeks at Clouds failed, in the end to help her.

As you see, I have personal experience of the topic.

[Ammi]

..and also the comment about 'sucking eggs'....it's extremely offensive to talk down to someone because of their age...age does not mean knowledge...

[Omah]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

My word is reputable, not reputable to you but then fact I take little notice of your posts if I am honest but I will always defend myself as is my right when anyone gets at me.
You are just now really and unnecessarily being highly offensive.

YOU are being defensive and aggressive.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..and also the comment about 'sucking eggs'....it's extremely offensive to talk down to someone because of their age...age does not mean knowledge...

It does, in my case.

Age also means personal experience, in my case.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Omah

Where is the "relevant, reputable information backed by supporting evidence" .....

In my post omah, there is a link to a NHS website with a casestudy, Is that not enough?

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Omah

IWell, if you're interested, my ex-wife was an alcoholic who cost the NHS tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of pounds in treatment and rehabilitation before she died of multiple organ failure.

Even spending 26 weeks at Clouds failed, in the end to help her.

As you see, I have personal experience of the topic.

Bad news to read this Omah - sorry for your experience

[Ammi]

..well, in my opinion, which is all most of us have anyway...having a personal experience of something only makes us very biased on a subject because emotions etc cloud our impartiality...I feel that Joey has given a very impartial and unbiased opinion and also researched into it as well....something I very much respect....

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Claymores

please don't take it to heart joey - you gave as best you could then the silly bit that your uncle is a consultant

(My uncle is Obama but I don't like to talk of his US foreign policy too much on TiBB)

I don't need to respond to this but in any effect I did not even mention my Uncle being a Consultant until Omah childishly got at me.

You may be interested to learn however that this Uncle I am referring to is a Consultant, specialising in Liver and Gastro-intestinal medicine.
I have another Uncle who is a GP and a Cousin who is a Junior Doctor.

I have no less than 6 other Cousins who are Nurses. Whether you accept that or not is your affair and your problem but it certainly is not mine.
However I do sincereley hope you and Omah are not inferring I am lying!

I see no need for sarcasm and I resent even just being inferred to as a liar by anyone ,I also will not take that or put up with up either.

[Niamh.]

There are plenty of people who believe you and are interested in hearing your experiences Joey, just ignore the rest

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't need to respond to this but in any effect I did not even mention my Uncle being a Consultant until Omah childishly got at me.

You may be interested to learn however that this Uncle I am referring to is a Consultant, specialising in Liver and Gastro-intestinal medicine.
I have another Uncle who is a GP and a Cousin who is a Junior Doctor.

I have no less than 6 other Cousins who are Nurses. Whether you accept that or not is your affair and your problem but it certainly is not mine.
However I do sincereley hope you and Omah are not inferring I am lying!

I see no need for sarcasm and I resent even just being inferred to as a liar by anyone ,I also will not take that or put up with up either.

joey - you are a clever young man with much to add to TiBB - don't worry!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There are plenty of people who believe you and are interested in hearing your experiences Joey, just ignore the rest

Thank you Niamh, I can prove to you and other Mods that I am correct in what I am saying.
Thank you for that Niamh.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Claymores

joey - you are a clever young man with much to add to TiBB - don't worry!

..lovely post Ian..and so very true...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Thank you Niamh, I can prove to you and other Mods that I am correct in what I am saying.
Thank you for that Niamh.

You don't need to do that, I have no doubt that most people who know you on here, don't doubt you for a second

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..well, in my opinion, which is all most of us have anyway...having a personal experience of something only makes us very biased on a subject because emotions etc cloud our impartiality...I feel that Joey has given a very impartial and unbiased opinion and also researched into it as well....something I very much respect....

Well, you are entitled to your "opinion", which seems to be based, in this case, on poorly reproduced hearsay .....