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Old 21-02-2013, 11:21 AM #126
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It just said on my radio news he's been taken off the case....although he's already done irreparable damage to it IMO....
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Other peoples sense of right and wrong isn't generally a product of their borders.
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Have you been to South Africa or have you got friends/relatives living there?

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If you have then your statement and its relevance to this case might have some credibility .....

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1128: Thursday's hearing is currently paused for a lunch break
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I really don't give a ****...
it realy puts the whole Michael Phelps smoking weed thing into perspective though, and even Lance Armstrong.

2 weeks ago we were worked up about Lance doping... well atleast Lance isn't a fooking MURDERER.

Lance Armstrong must be the happiest man on the planet lol, another sporting legend being a murderer, makes doping look pretty benign in comparison.
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1147: The bail hearing recommences
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1210: The South African Police Service is going to hold a news conference in two hours on the Oscar Pistorius case regarding the Detective Botha debacle
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1241: The magistrate is calling for an abrupt adjournment of the hearing, mentioning a "threat of some kind" outside courtroom.
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1257: Mr Roux has concluded and is now being questioned by Magistrate Desmond Nair who says the court has heard evidence that Mr Pistorius asked a friend to take the blame for an accidental gunshot fired in restaurant.

1304: The magistrate is questioning defence counsel Mr Roux about Oscar Pistorius's alleged history of threatening behaviour and violent language.
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He'll probably get away with it. Like i said before... OJ Simpson version 2.0
I keep thinking the same, he will probably get off with it. Although I expect this case could take a while for any verdict to be reached.
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Important to remember that we've largely just heard from the prosecution so far though, it's already turned out that one of their main witnesses is pretty unreliable
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If you have then your statement and its relevance to this case might have some credibility .....
That's just blanket ignorance, and you know it is because you always add the pipe smiley when you don't actually say anything, but you feel as though you've made the killer point.

Reductio ad absurdum.

You can only comment on a country if you've been there. And you still don't know whether I've been there or not, as it's really not relevant.
 
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That's just blanket ignorance, and you know it is because you always add the pipe smiley when you don't actually say anything, but you feel as though you've made the killer point.

Reductio ad absurdum.

You can only comment on a country if you've been there. And you still don't know whether I've been there or not, as it's really not relevant.
As i thought, no cred .....

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1332: Prosecutor Gerrie Nel is starting his closing arguments in the bail hearing. Reports suggest it is unlikely the judge will rule on Mr Pistorius's bail application today.

Mr Nel insists the Paralympic champion "wants to continue with his life as if this incident never happened" and displays a "total lack of insight into the seriousness of what he's done".

1346: The validity of Mr Pistorius's sworn statement, or affidavit, is now coming under scrutiny by the prosecution.
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As i thought, no cred .....

Evasio abscondit vacuae menti .....
Please explain why you think I have no credibility to make a point about South Africa?

Does it boil down to the fact that you believe I haven't been there?

Can you just confirm to me, that is your opinion please?

I realise what I'm asking may be difficult for you to answer, as I'm not sure which site you can cut and paste your own opinions from, because it sure isn't this one.
 
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1332: Prosecutor Gerrie Nel is starting his closing arguments in the bail hearing. Reports suggest it is unlikely the judge will rule on Mr Pistorius's bail application today.

Mr Nel insists the Paralympic champion "wants to continue with his life as if this incident never happened" and displays a "total lack of insight into the seriousness of what he's done".

1346: The validity of Mr Pistorius's sworn statement, or affidavit, is now coming under scrutiny by the prosecution.
You what! I bet that poor girl's family are wishing the incident never happened, or that she ever got together with Oscar Pistorius.
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1400: Prosecutor Mr Nel says Mr Pistorius's actions were "indicative of a man ready and willing to fire to kill".

Mr Nel begins his attack on Mr Pistorius's character. According to the court reporters, Mr Nel raises an incident when Mr Pistorius was alleged to have let off a gun in public, but got his friend to take to blame.

The hearing is abruptly adjourned until 08:00 GMT on Friday. Magistrate Desmond Nair explains that administrative reasons of the court are to blame. Mr Pistorius will spend another night in police custody.

1414: Andrew Harding Africa correspondent The family of Mr Pistorius are filing out of the court, disappointed at the delay. A statement will be issued later. Meanwhile, prosecutor Gerrie Nel says his closing argument will take "not more than an hour" when the hearing resumes on Friday.
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You what! I bet that poor girl's family are wishing the incident never happened, or that she ever got together with Oscar Pistorius.
yup, but she doesn';t get to go in front of a judge and beg to have her life back does she? nope, she's just dead.

Reeva doesn't get to ask for a judge to give HER life back.

She is not here to ask for justice, it is up to US to demand justice for her. let's remember that. Oscar still has his voice, Reeva does not.

We must be a voice for Reeva.
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Please explain why you think I have no credibility to make a point about South Africa?

Does it boil down to the fact that you believe I haven't been there?

Can you just confirm to me, that is your opinion please?
With regard to the statement you made and which I queried, yes.

I assume that you will now tell me about your surfing/safari holiday in SA or your charity work amongst the impoverished farmers of Limpopo .....
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With regard to the statement you made and which I queried, yes.

I assume that you will now tell me about your surfing/safari holiday in SA or your charity work amongst the impoverished farmers of Limpopo .....
Nope. I haven't been to SA, and it's still not relevant. I just wanted you to clarify that you think the statement "I don't think peoples view of right or wrong is generally established by their borders (or something very similar)" Is defunct because I've never been to SA.

Go ahead, use the pipe smiley all you want, but that's insane.
 
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Nope. I haven't been to SA, and it's still not relevant. I just wanted you to clarify that you think the statement "I don't think peoples view of right or wrong is generally established by their borders (or something very similar)" Is defunct because I've never been to SA.

Go ahead, use the pipe smiley all you want, but that's insane.
You should get out more .....

I've done most of Western Europe and parts of North Africa and had MY eyes opened .....
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Can yu imagine if this was a major female sports star???

oh wait... #1 there are no major female sports stars and #2 women don't really abuse and murder men....

interesting...

Hmmm..... food for thought.

WTF is wrong with successful men?
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Can yu imagine if this was a major female sports star???

oh wait... #1 there are no major female sports stars and #2 women don't really abuse and murder men....

interesting...

Hmmm..... food for thought.

WTF is wrong with successful men?
Umm..
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"Tonya and Nancy" - Famous Figure Skating Scandal:

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Shortly after that, it was alleged that Tonya Harding might have been part of the conspiracy to hurt Nancy. Tonya was banned from U.S. Figure Skating for life.

Did Zola Budd Trip Mary Decker? Olympic Distance Running Controversy

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Did Zola Budd trip Mary Decker in 1984? The video was inconclusive but there’s no doubt that the 3000-meter race produced one of the greatest controversies in Olympic track and field history.

Budd was already a well-known and controversial competitor prior to the Los Angeles Games. The barefoot runner was born in South Africa, which was then banned from the Olympics due to its government’s apartheid policy. When Budd applied for British citizenship in early 1984 her request was expedited and she became a British citizen in time to compete in Los Angeles where she earned a spot in the 3000 final.

Just past the midpoint of the race, with Budd slightly ahead of Decker, the two came in contact but neither broke stride. Moments later, however, Budd moved lower on the track and Decker stepped on Budd’s heel, causing Budd to stumble and Decker to trip over Budd. Budd got up and continued but never drew back into contention. Decker remained down with an injured thigh. Romania’s Maricica Puica went on to win the race.

Decker angrily blamed Budd for the incident, saying there was “no doubt” that Budd was at fault. Track officials initially agreed, disqualifying Budd for obstruction, but reversed their decision after reviewing tapes of the race, which seemed to indicate that Budd’s move, while perhaps a bit abrupt, was made in reaction to other runners’ movements and was unintentional. In any event, the tangle cost both runners the chance for an Olympic medal in 1984.
But I don't recall any female athlete murder involvement .....
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Lightbulb Oscar Pistorius case: New detective brought in

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A top South African detective is to take over the Oscar Pistorius investigation amid murder accusations against the current lead officer.

Hilton Botha faces seven counts of attempted murder, police confirmed.

Commissioner Mangwashi Phiyega announced the change after a third dramatic day of testimony at Mr Pistorius' bail hearing.
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name a successful female south african sports star and i'll tell you if i've heard of her..
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