[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

lots of assumptions there, he has a long criminal past, hes proven to be a violent man, hes got 11 kids there and many others elsewhere, hes breeding dogs, he threatens people on national tv, to have that many people and animals in a 3 bedroom house is a fire hazard at best. its tragic the benefits system help support this mans disgusting lifestyle. its even more tragic that it came to this. the social services shoul have done way way more. you can just see from the way he behaves and from his record he is a disgusting bully boy.

The law states he would have to have the assistance of benefits, whatever the rights and wrongs of the benefits system, this is an extreme case and I am not going to exploit this tragedy for any failings as to the welfare situation.

It isn't a fire hazard to have 11 children and 2 adults and dogs in the house.
The children he has elsewhere don't come into this and thank goodness they don't as they are still alive, they had nothing to do with his living arrangements at this particular house.
As for his criminal record, well whatever he did in the past,when convicted he will have been given a sentence, once that is paid then he is a citizen again.

He is an awful individual but the law would state he had to have this benefits help, he was in the army, so he has paid into the system too in his time.

We cannot just go around and remove benefits and cast out people just because of the way they appear to behave, people have to do something criminally worng first.
He had in the past but had done whatever sentence was given.

We can go round in circles but for sure no one that ever,and I stress ever knew him raised any alarms as to him being a threat to his or others children.

This is a sick, also in my view despicable tragedy, he has been found guilty of this and will hopefully be sent to prison for a very long time now.
The really sad thing about all this,is that it has taken this tragedy to really and fully expose his even more deep rooted nastiness as an individual.

Before it occurred, no matter what his behaviour may have been,he wasn't doing or claiming anything wrongly that anyone could guess never mind see to have to do anything about.

He has been exposed as total scum and he will pay very heavily not only with the prison sentence he gets but also the treatment he will get from other prisoners once they can get to him.