[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lily.

Go check out the links I added to that post Niamh.

I will, cheers

Originally Posted by Omah

Who mentioned six-year-olds ?

I replied to the assertion "All bathrooms should be unisex" - I assumed that the American euphemism "bathrooms" could be translated as "toilets" - I also assumed that "All" meant "All" which of course would include public bathrooms/toilets .....

Well this whole thread is about a six year old

[Omah]

Originally Posted by lostalex

wait... why would there be a dirty old man in a unisex bathroom any more than there would be a dirty old man in segregated bathrooms? Who is this dirty old man and where did he come from?

Well, believe it or not, some dirty old men like little boys and some dirty old men like little girls and some like both .....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lostalex

But they segregate everything. Much like catholic schools which have all boys or all girls schools... They probably wouldn't even allow a transgendered person to go to their schools in the first place.

But I don't agree with segregation in public schools. If it's a public school, there should be full integration.

..not always though..there are many mixed gender schools, which are multi-cultural and that also has to be allowed for...in this particular case of the 6yr old..they did allow the girls toilet to be used for around 18 months, I think...I don't know why that changed but I do think this story isn't exactly how it's being portrayed..I've watched ingterviews etc with Coy and the parents and it what they're saying just doesn't seem to have any foundaition...and maybe that's how the school feel as well..?..I don't know Alex...

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I will, cheers



Well this whole thread is about a six year old

Obviously you have not read the WHOLE thread .....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lily.

Go check out the links I added to that post Niamh.

..have you watched any of the interviews with the parents and Coy..?...they don't really seem to have any obvious reasons to assume Coy is transgender...

[Ammi]

..I do agree though that the 'pervert' thing could and would happen in any toilet, if it was going to happen...that wouldn't make a difference to the tiolets being for both genders...

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..have you watched any of the interviews with the parents and Coy..?...they don't really seem to have any obvious reasons to assume Coy is transgender...

I haven't watched the interviews, but the blog post I linked in my post gives quite a good insight into what kind of parents they are.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lily.

I haven't watched the interviews, but the blog post I linked in my post gives quite a good insight into what kind of parents they are.

..what was interesting about the actual interviews is that Coy would have had to relay so much of how things made her feel, for her parents to assume her to be transgender and yet she says nothing in any of the interviews..and I know she's only 6yrs old, but we're led to believe that she already is certain of her sexuality at that age..?..the 'attention' thing you mentioned is quite interesting though because I knew Coy had quite a few siblings and mostly female, I think..but I didn't know any details about those siblings...

[lily.]

As a parent, I'm of the opinion that 6 is too young to know. I stand by that opinion.

Perhaps Coy is really a girl, and would have come to that conclusion anyway, but to put this much attention on the child is 100% the wrong thing to do. What if it's just a phase? How does Coy go back to being a boy? After this spectacle, it will be impossible to lead a normal life. It's a disgraceful way to treat your children. If there's genuine gender identity issues, they should be dealt with privately.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lily.

As a parent, I'm of the opinion that 6 is too young to know. I stand by that opinion.

Perhaps Coy is really a girl, and would have come to that conclusion anyway, but to put this much attention on the child is 100% the wrong thing to do. What if it's just a phase? How does Coy go back to being a boy? After this spectacle, it will be impossible to lead a normal life. It's a disgraceful way to treat your children. If there's genuine gender identity issues, they should be dealt with privately.

Absolutely agree with this.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by lily.

As a parent, I'm of the opinion that 6 is too young to know. I stand by that opinion.

Perhaps Coy is really a girl, and would have come to that conclusion anyway, but to put this much attention on the child is 100% the wrong thing to do. What if it's just a phase? How does Coy go back to being a boy? After this spectacle, it will be impossible to lead a normal life. It's a disgraceful way to treat your children. If there's genuine gender identity issues, they should be dealt with privately.

Yup. I agree.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lily.

As a parent, I'm of the opinion that 6 is too young to know. I stand by that opinion.

Perhaps Coy is really a girl, and would have come to that conclusion anyway, but to put this much attention on the child is 100% the wrong thing to do. What if it's just a phase? How does Coy go back to being a boy? After this spectacle, it will be impossible to lead a normal life. It's a disgraceful way to treat your children. If there's genuine gender identity issues, they should be dealt with privately.

..and it's also doing the very thing that they're apparently fighting against...it's putting pressure on the child to be a certain gender..if Coy is a female, then she will be one in time and they'll support her when that time comes..but they themselves are being prejudice if they don't also allow Coy equal opportunity to be male as well...

[Ammi]

..and I should say that for me, that's my main issue with the parents..that they don't see their prejudice in all of this...

[lily.]

The parents are clearly mental.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by lily.

The parents are clearly mental.

[swinearefine]

Society's obsession with segregation is absolutely sickening. Bathrooms shouldn't segregate based on gender any more than they should based off race. And people saying that six is too young to know, well based off this story apparently it isn't. She associates with girls more than boys, and it's no one else's business to tell her that she's too young to feel the way she does. Would you say the other kids are too young to decide to use the bathrooms the school says they are supposed to?

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

Society's obsession with segregation is absolutely sickening. Bathrooms shouldn't segregate based on gender any more than they should based off race. And people saying that six is too young to know, well based off this story apparently it isn't. She associates with girls more than boys, and it's no one else's business to tell her that she's too young to feel the way she does. Would you say the other kids are too young to decide to use the bathrooms the school says they are supposed to?

Bathrooms are segregated for practical reasons as well. If there were unisex bathrooms, they would probably get rid of the ever useful urinals, and I will die before I let that happen

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

Bathrooms are segregated for practical reasons as well. If there were unisex bathrooms, they would probably get rid of the ever useful urinals, and I will die before I let that happen

The world won't end if a female sees a penis.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by lily.

The parents are clearly mental.

Agree 100%.........!!!!

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

The world won't end if a female sees a penis.

that's what I keep trying to tell them, but they always scream and run away

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

that's what I keep trying to tell them, but they always scream and run away

Life can be cruel.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

Society's obsession with segregation is absolutely sickening. Bathrooms shouldn't segregate based on gender any more than they should based off race. And people saying that six is too young to know, well based off this story apparently it isn't. She associates with girls more than boys, and it's no one else's business to tell her that she's too young to feel the way she does. Would you say the other kids are too young to decide to use the bathrooms the school says they are supposed to?

..yeah, but the school is in a difficult position because they don't have a mixed gender bathroom, so they have to make a decision based on the gender that Coy is and from my understanding, transgenders are straight forward male/female chromosome structures, so Coy is presently 'male'..and they have offered for the child to use the staff bathroom as a 'compromise' but the parents refuse...maybe in an ideal world then there would be something in place in schools for this but that also requires funding that most schools don't have..also, the psychologist has said that the parents should allow for Coy to be what they feel they are but that doesn't mean that the school will always be able to do that..from what I have read, they have made allowances in the past but maybe they can't continue to do so for other reasons..?...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

that's what I keep trying to tell them, but they always scream and run away

[Wildcat!]

This really makes me angry!! You guys can go PC all you want, but this is simply child abuse imo. Its the same as letting a child drink, smoke, or stay out all night, or letting pre teens buy sexy lingerie and thongs. I dont care what he may be in the future. Right now, he is a boy, and he should not be indulged into this. He will only be ridiculed, and outcasted his whole childhood. Let him at least hit puberty fgs, before he can make these choices!!

Furthermore, even if the parents dont have any backbone, thats fine, this is about using the public restrooms, and he is a boy period!

This is abolutely ridiculous, and no wonder our society and morals are so f'ed up! 6 years olds allowed to do whatever they damned please! smdh!!

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

Society's obsession with segregation is absolutely sickening. Bathrooms shouldn't segregate based on gender any more than they should based off race. And people saying that six is too young to know, well based off this story apparently it isn't. She associates with girls more than boys, and it's no one else's business to tell her that she's too young to feel the way she does. Would you say the other kids are too young to decide to use the bathrooms the school says they are supposed to?

they can do whatever they damned please in their own home, so can you, but if my 6 year old girl, goes to a school were boys are allowed in the girls bathroom, they are gonna get sued. Guess what he is a boy, I dont care what he thinks.