Originally Posted by Ammi

..hmm. yeah but she didn't leavi it open by naming her though and Niamh would remember if she had given that name to her...mine was similar in that one of the things I was told was about a death and they were also named and also the month he died..?...there were other things as well but they're quite personal....

You can't say how that conversation played out. Was it done in in a Ludo reveal kind of way?

Person x, depression, suicide.

Or was it something like:

You have a friend called Rusty Lee

(Niamh nods, or looks up to recognise the name)

well this is going to happen.

That is completely open, and until Niamhs last breath there is a chance that could be true.

Dates are really easy to get round to cold readers. Firstly you have an instant 1 in 12 chance of being correct to begin with. If you're wrong then they will often change it.

Well that's when they first became ill, someone close to them died in that month - they're with them now everything is great.

It's all linguistics.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

You can't say how that conversation played out. Was it done in in a Ludo reveal kind of way?

Person x, depression, suicide.

Or was it something like:

You have a friend called Rusty Lee

(Niamh nods, or looks up to recognise the name)

well this is going to happen.

That is completely open, and until Niamhs last breath there is a chance that could be true.

Dates are really easy to get round to cold readers. Firstly you have an instant 1 in 12 chance of being correct to begin with. If you're wrong then they will often change it.

Well that's when they first became ill, someone close to them died in that month - they're with them now everything is great.

It's all linguistics.

..hmmm, yeah it is all possible and I'm sure it's what often happens...but it wasn't like that for me, she spoke really quickly and was looking at her tarot cards in her hand the whole time..she didn't look up to make eye contact with me..in fact she did say at the beginning that she didn't need me to acknowledge anything..and I didn't...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

You can't say how that conversation played out. Was it done in in a Ludo reveal kind of way?

Person x, depression, suicide.

Or was it something like:

You have a friend called Rusty Lee

(Niamh nods, or looks up to recognise the name)

well this is going to happen.

That is completely open, and until Niamhs last breath there is a chance that could be true.

Dates are really easy to get round to cold readers. Firstly you have an instant 1 in 12 chance of being correct to begin with. If you're wrong then they will often change it.

Well that's when they first became ill, someone close to them died in that month - they're with them now everything is great.

It's all linguistics.

It was nothing like your describing Jesus, and tbh I wish I'd never even started talking about it now because it's about something I find quite upsetting still and I don't want to dissect every part of it, there was a bit more to it that I'd rather not go into but I can say that it was pretty believable to me and I'm a fairly sceptical kind of a person.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It was nothing like your describing Jesus, and tbh I wish I'd never even started talking about it now because it's about something I find quite upsetting still and I don't want to dissect every part of it, there was a bit more to it that I'd rather not go into but I can say that it was pretty believable to me and I'm a fairly sceptical kind of a person.

..I agree with you and I do resent that anyone who has a genuine personal experience of this type being inferred to as in any way 'gullible' because I'm honestly not and wasn't even at the young age I went to see this lady. I do understand that quite a lot of people do go to see these people at a time in their lives when maybe they are a bit 'lost' and are trying to get some direction...so then there's a 'tick list' of possibilities..?...and a chance of getting some of those correct...

..but that wasn't how it was with me...I only went because someone else dropped out and my life was perfectly happy and ok...I don't want to say everything she told me because it's far too personal...but even if I did, then I'm sure it would just be dismissed anyway, which is actually really disrespectful...and also comparing a genuine experience to someone like Derren Brown, who is a self-confessed showman/entertainer and just because he doubts phychic abilities, doesn't mean that they don't exist...and especially as he's already stated that he knows nothing about them in the first place....

...and I'm not saying that I do believe in them either..all I'm saying is that I had a genuine and actually rather upsetting experience one time and it was enough for me to never do it again and decide that it was something I didn't want to delve into any further...there are some things in life that just can't always be explained by 'logic'....the 'tricks/methods' etc can be explained and that's because they are exactly that and something that entertainers like Derren Brown are skilled at...but the possibility of 'psychic abilities' is unproven, which also means that it's equally not proven to not exist either...and there are a lot of people who don't claim to have any of those abilities, but who have had some small kind of 'psychic' experience..far too many to dismiss it as just nonsense, without even giving it any possibility of being true...and those experiences could be anything..a 'feeling' of a loved one after they pass or a sense of deja vue etc..no one can say for certain that there's absolutley nothing in it at all..because some things just cannot be explained...