[lostalex]

I'm against this. I think every country should have a fully nationalized postal service.

You have no idea how irate i was when i found out that the US postal service was gonna stop delivering on saturdays.

I want the government to do the mail cause i don't trust private corporations!

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sorry I don't agree, it needs looking at again in my view and it likely will be too.

Vince said today its taken 2 years to get this far.


Are you a Communist now?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Vince said today its taken 2 years to get this far.


Are you a Communist now?

Hardly, I just don't accept that selling it off will improve things, better to improve the Royal Mail from where it is now not hand it over to others who then can do what they like and we would just have to accept that.

Like with the power companies, we were assured competition would mean greater choice and better prices, we got neither and prices rocketed.

I would prefer the Mail services to stay where and how it is,no selling off,thank you.

By the way if Vince Cable is for this then that is another good reason for it not to happen.

[AnnieK]

Something needs to be done. The number of items that go missing is now ridiculous. I get mail about 3days out of 6 now and I think it is pretty expensive, particularly on larger items. I use couriers where possible now, they are cheaper, quicker and fully traceable at no extra cost for larger parcels.

[Omah]

Sell it off, sell it all off .....

[joeysteele]

I don't deny things need improving and everyone will have their own experiences and thoughts as to the Royal Mail.
However for me, I 99% of the time always use it, I don't find it expensive at all,my parents are constantly sending me things to where I am while at Uni and they always use Royal Mail too.

Oddly enough the only thing I have ever had go missing was something I sent as a gift to someone by a courier firm, it took me ages to get it sorted out with them but the package was gone for good,I did get compensated but it was no replacement for the gift really.

Obviously others have some different experiences with Royal Mail but I have yet to have something go missing with them, either as to me receiving something or me sending something.
So I can only really praise them at this moment in time.
Even though you haven't a clue if your mail is coming somewhere round about 11 in the morning or not until at the latest something like 5 pm.

[Shaun]

There is definitely an element of mistrust in selling to a private investor (or shareholders)... but then, I often find that the private delivery companies existing today are a lot more reliable (particularly UPS). Not to say that I have regular problems with the Royal Mail.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't deny things need improving and everyone will have their own experiences and thoughts as to the Royal Mail.
However for me, I 99% of the time always use it, I don't find it expensive at all,my parents are constantly sending me things to where I am while at Uni and they always use Royal Mail too.

What it is to be rich, eh .....

[Omah]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...n-a-third.html

18 Jul 2011
The national postal service received 120,884 complaints from angry customers in the first three months of the year – up 37 per cent on the same period in 2010.

The figure represents the highest level of dissatisfaction among customers in the last three years.

The company was forced to pay out £5.1 million in compensation to customers for lost items in the last year – the equivalent of almost £100,000 every week.

In total last year, the Royal Mail received 332,000 complaints for losing letters and parcels – more than 1,000 every working day. In the previous year the comparable number of complaints was just 306,000.

A spokesman for the watchdog Consumer Focus said: "Missing mail is a real cause for concern for consumers.

"If the figures are right, then Royal Mail needs to take a serious look at the service it's providing and take steps for improvement."

Royal Mail has got one job to do - collect and deliver mail - and, increasingly, it's charging more for a failing service .....

[joeysteele]

I hardly think the millions of people who use the Royal Mail are rich,not that it is anyone's business if they are or are not anyway.

Of course there are problems with the current system, relate it though to the mountains of mail that is dealt with and the errors and problems are in the minority I would guess.
Sort out the problems,make things more efficient and as trouble free as they can be,I still see no reason to sell any of it off,in my view,so am against that being done.
I also for sure would not trust this Govt particularly and its reasons for selling any of it off either.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I hardly think the millions of people who use the Royal Mail are rich,not that it is anyone's business if they are or are not anyway.

Virtually everyone I know can no longer afford to use Royal Mail for letters - luckily there are many free options available. When ordering products online, they also ensure that delivery (and returns) are postage free. When they send goods, Royal Mail is the cheapest for packets, but, apparently, courier services are now cheapest for parcels.

Every penny counts for some of us .....

The complaint figures for lost post come against a backdrop of a sharp fall in the number of items delivered daily by the Royal Mail – down almost 25 per cent in the last five years.

"millions of people" have dumped Royal Mail because they can't afford to use it .....

[Omah]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Of course there are problems with the current system, relate it though to the mountains of mail that is dealt with and the errors and problems are in the minority I would guess.
Sort out the problems,make things more efficient and as trouble free as they can be,I still see no reason to sell any of it off,in my view,so am against that being done.

In 2011, Royal Mail posted losses of £258 million and admitted it was technically insolvent.

That problem will take some "sorting out" .....

http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnist...or-royal-mail/

Mail chief executive Moya Greene (poached from Canada Post) banked a £371,000 bonus last year, taking her package to a provocative £1,100,000. And the three executive posts below Greene averaged packages of £760,000 last year.

In the case of Royal Mail the wider public, whose interest is in quality and price of service, see a limping dinosaur in retreat, missing delivery targets, pushing up stamp prices, closing village post offices, yielding to militants in its workforce, and failing at every turn to maximise the competitive advantages of its brand power and infrastructure.

On that assessment, Moya Greene and her colleagues are paid far too much.

Far, far too much .....

Sack 'em, sack 'em all .....

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

There is a Strike Today in some places.



And due to the millions they are losing each year
they have to sell it off to keep it alive

My mail arraived at 4:10pm yesterday. It's almost 3pm now and my post still isn't here. This is a daily occurence. And the amount of post - both incoming and outgoing - that goes astray is unbelievable.

[Niall]

As a general rule, I'm very much against privatisation of nationalised businesses like this but I don't really know enough about Royal Mail to have a proper view really. I've never had a problem with them ever - only the privately run companies contracted out by online retailers have been a bother for me (Yodel, DPD), so naturally I'm suspicious of it suddenly being run privately.

[Vicky.]

Cant be much worse than it is now..the amount of post that just hasnt turned up when it was definitely sent (birthday cards and such usually..I'm betting that the posties open them for the cash in them ) is ****ing ridiculous.

[joeysteele]

Livia and Vicky, you have made me re-think a bit as to this, I am not as opposed to it as I was. Strong points as ever from you both.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Livia and Vicky, you have made me re-think a bit as to this, I am not as opposed to it as I was. Strong points as ever from you both.

Thats the Spirit
Joey

POWERFUL

So when all the competition has been sold to the private sector, we will all begin to see a massive rise in costs. They won't be looking to provide a service, they will be looking to make profits.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

So when all the competition has been sold to the private sector, we will all begin to see a massive rise in costs. They won't be looking to provide a service, they will be looking to make profits.

Yes


And I want to pay more
to get a better Service.


and Also Profits are Fecking Normal.


You need to move to Cuba

That's good for you, Arista. I don't think you realise exactly what prices you will be expected to pay. Alex lives in a country with a fully privatised postal service. I'm sure he would speak glowingly about it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

That's good for you, Arista. I don't think you realise exactly what prices you will be expected to pay. Alex lives in a country with a fully privatised postal service. I'm sure he would speak glowingly about it.

I have been in America
they have problems that are not like our smaller nation.



And You are Wrong
I will expect a much Higher Price
but at least it gets there

[Omah]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Livia and Vicky, you have made me re-think a bit as to this, I am not as opposed to it as I was.

Good for you .....

[arista]

[Royal Mail staff to be offered up to £2,000
each as part of privatisation
Communications union says postal workers
will not 'sell their souls' for a 10% stake in the 'great British flog-off']

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk-news/20...al?INTCMP=SRCH


Unions have no solution for Money Loss
so they are stupid again.

[Royal Mail float has the Fallon stamp of approval
The tax payer can no longer afford to run a national postal service because doing so diverts money away from hospitals and schools, the postal services minister will say today. ]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-approval.html

[arista]

Labour has not said they will reverse it,
as they know its a Business in trouble
Up and Down in profit over the last 10years.

Vince Cable MP
has said they will fund places that are out of town etc.
As all money from the shares sell goes back to the Treasury.
The Universal Service is in Law.

But Royal Mail must get New Fresh Funding
and only way is Private Funding.
Vince Cable is Clever

New Labour Failed twice to get it through,
its like we had to do their Fecking Dirty Work


So No Need to Strike
Royal Mail Must Change Now


Ref: SkyNewsHD ,Ch5NewsHD, BBC news

[Marc]

It's about to be sold