[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jack_

An interesting take on the events

I'm glad you're back Jack :

Originally Posted by Jack_

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...n-tonight.html



As someone else said...his point is perfectly reasonable and I can totally understand the reasonings behind it, but an eye for an eye never works and this is truly just as disgusting as what he is condemning.

Originally Posted by Omah

Excuse me, but what point is "perfectly reasonable" .....

Originally Posted by Jack_

I'll respond to that point when you justify your racist remark a few pages back and explain to me how it's surprising that a black man is 'well spoken'.

Originally Posted by Omah

That's not what I said .....

I said "The "fanatic" is surprisingly black and well-spoken" .....

At 1930, the news program I was watching described a "terrorist" attack having taken place in Woolwich where one of the assailants (no ethnicity or race mentioned) had been shouting incoherently except for one phrase "Allahu Akbar”, which, AFAIK, is an Islamic phrase which Muslims use, meaning "God is great".

I was therefore surprised when, later, linked on this site to a video which showed a black man speaking English very well* (or with "reason") when most of Britain's Muslims are of Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi origin or ethnicity and such extremists as belong to those origin/ethnicities are frequently portrayed as being lacking in English language communication and presentation skills **.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22624100

* "We must fight them as they fight us. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth," said the Woolwich attacker who spoke with a London accent. "I apologise that women have had to witness this today, but in our land our women have to see the same."



** See Parviz Khan link in post #281.

Now explain your remark, as I requested, please .....

#281

Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.channel4.com/news/woolwic...-previous-plot



Parviz Khan taught sons: This is how you slit the throats of your enemies

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-taught-294158

I've been waiting for your response .....

[Brother Leon]

Keep seeing this guy when I see the second person...

Originally Posted by Kizzy

He isn't saying he was poor or uneducated, he was radicalised at a impressionable age... brainwashed, this is how they work to infiltrate the UK.

Concerned parents, a comfortable home, a good school - where did it all go wrong for Adeboloja?

That's nonsense, Kizzy.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Keep seeing this guy when I see the second person...

We only have a distant photo of the other killer

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

That's nonsense, Kizzy.

It actually isn't jesus, and watching jacks clip I see that the guy has a similar stance on it.
If you don't agree with me fine, I won't suggest your comments are nonsense and would appreciate if you do the same.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

That's nonsense, Kizzy.

That's balderdash Jesus .....

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It actually isn't jesus, and watching jacks clip I see that the guy has a similar stance on it.
If you don't agree with me fine, I won't suggest your comments are nonsense and would appreciate if you do the same.

As you interjected in a conversation that wasn't yours to begin with, then maybe that should identify how you could avoided having your point identified as nonsense to begin with.

School and family has nothing to do with radicalisation.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

As you interjected in a conversation that wasn't yours to begin with, then maybe that should identify how you could avoided having your point identified as nonsense to begin with.

School and family has nothing to do with radicalisation.

this is a forum jesus, I will interject if I wish.
I didn't say it had, anyway I'm leaving the debate for a bit as you are beginning your usual assault.

[arista]

It was a Police Women who shot the two
Islamic Terrorists to the ground


Good on her
to act so fast

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

As you interjected in a conversation that wasn't yours to begin with, then maybe that should identify how you could avoided having your point identified as nonsense to begin with.

School and family has nothing to do with radicalisation.

IYO .....

Bye then.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Bye then.

Originally Posted by Omah

IYO .....

Please explain the 9/11 hijackers to me then?

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Bye then.

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Please explain the 9/11 hijackers to me then?

I thought you were history .....

[Vanessa]

I haven't watched the video yet. I can't bring myself to. I just don't understand how people could do this.

Originally Posted by Omah

I thought you were history .....

I was saying goodbye to Kizzy who said she was leaving the thread.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

I was saying goodbye to Kizzy who said she was leaving the thread.

So am I .....

Originally Posted by Omah

So am I .....

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...&postcount=339

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I haven't watched the video yet. I can't bring myself to. I just don't understand how people could do this.

it not nice nessy

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Marc

I feel sorry for those in the hospital having to treat these evil monsters. Must be difficult to want to keep these guys alive or treat them

Oh I think the very least we can do is keep them alive. No 72 virgins for these guys, no they need to be kept alive so they can enjoy decades of pain and regret mixed together with the odd bit of torture now and again.

No quick exit for these "men" ?? more a long life spent inside 4 brick walls with very little light, perhaps someone finally who does deserve Guantanamo Bay and all the delights it has to offer........!!!!

[Marcus.]

Help for Heroes website to crash because of lots of Surge in donations

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...fic-surge.html

[Nedusa]

Does anyone feel Muslim religious leaders need to be a bit more vocal in their condemnation of acts like these. Maybe the time has come for the Muslim communities to stand up a bit more and protest at the way their religion is used by extremists who carry out this type of atrocity.

Non Muslim British people go to great pains to distance normal peace loving Muslims from the maniac types who carry out these sorts of attack, but maybe now all Muslims from all walks of life should rise up with one voice and say enough is enough.

Perhaps the Islamic centres should look more closely at the style of teaching in Mosques and the truer beliefs of some of their Imams.

It would be nice if all religions (Incl Islam) stood together to condemn this type of barbarity once and for all and re-iterate that peace and love are the only way to move forward.

Or am I being too idealistic....????

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jack_

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...n-tonight.html

As someone else said...his point is perfectly reasonable and I can totally understand the reasonings behind it, but an eye for an eye never works and this is truly just as disgusting as what he is condemning.

Originally Posted by Omah

Excuse me, but what point is "perfectly reasonable" .....

Originally Posted by Jack_

I'll respond to that point when you justify your racist remark a few pages back and explain to me how it's surprising that a black man is 'well spoken'.

Originally Posted by Omah

That's not what I said .....

I said "The "fanatic" is surprisingly black and well-spoken" .....

At 1930, the news program I was watching described a "terrorist" attack having taken place in Woolwich where one of the assailants (no ethnicity or race mentioned) had been shouting incoherently except for one phrase "Allahu Akbar”, which, AFAIK, is an Islamic phrase which Muslims use, meaning "God is great".

I was therefore surprised when, later, linked on this site to a video which showed a black man speaking English very well* (or with "reason") when most of Britain's Muslims are of Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi origin or ethnicity and such extremists as belong to those origin/ethnicities are frequently portrayed as being lacking in English language communication and presentation skills **.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22624100

* "We must fight them as they fight us. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth," said the Woolwich attacker who spoke with a London accent. "I apologise that women have had to witness this today, but in our land our women have to see the same."



** See Parviz Khan link in post #281.

Now explain your remark, as I requested, please .....

Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.channel4.com/news/woolwic...-previous-plot



Parviz Khan taught sons: This is how you slit the throats of your enemies

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-taught-294158

Originally Posted by Omah

I'm glad you're back Jack :

I've been waiting for your response .....

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Does anyone feel Muslim religious leaders need to be a bit more vocal in their condemnation of acts like these. Maybe the time has come for the Muslim communities to stand up a bit more and protest at the way their religion is used by extremists who carry out this type of atrocity.

Non Muslim British people go to great pains to distance normal peace loving Muslims from the maniac types who carry out these sorts of attack, but maybe now all Muslims from all walks of life should rise up with one voice and say enough is enough.

Perhaps the Islamic centres should look more closely at the style of teaching in Mosques and the truer beliefs of some of their Imams.

It would be nice if all religions (Incl Islam) stood together to condemn this type of barbarity once and for all and re-iterate that peace and love are the only way to move forward.

Or am I being too idealistic....????

BIB ..... Yes

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Does anyone feel Muslim religious leaders need to be a bit more vocal in their condemnation of acts like these. Maybe the time has come for the Muslim communities to stand up a bit more and protest at the way their religion is used by extremists who carry out this type of atrocity.

Non Muslim British people go to great pains to distance normal peace loving Muslims from the maniac types who carry out these sorts of attack, but maybe now all Muslims from all walks of life should rise up with one voice and say enough is enough.

Perhaps the Islamic centres should look more closely at the style of teaching in Mosques and the truer beliefs of some of their Imams.

It would be nice if all religions (Incl Islam) stood together to condemn this type of barbarity once and for all and re-iterate that peace and love are the only way to move forward.

Or am I being too idealistic....????

No,I agree,they need to be seen condemning this barbaric behaviour otherwise it looks as though they are condoning it.Has anyone stood up yet?