[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Because it's the worlds biggest game of sweeping s**t under the carpet. Deporting a so-called hate cleric has no affect on the ideology of anyone. The same rules that allow me to call Mohammed a paedophile, should enable followers of his to say we're murdering people in the middle east and revenge is viable.

You are suggesting that all Muslims and in fact the whole of the middle east are extremists.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You are suggesting that all Muslims and in fact the whole of the middle east are extremists.

No. I'm really not.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

No. I'm really not.

You just did, they are a small but dangerous minority, you made a generalisation that enveloped the whole of the middle east.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well that is the freedom of speech we all want, now if they were calling for people to chop the heads off gays it would be a different ball game

It is still inciting racial hatred regardless of the ethnicity of the preacher.

So the crossover line is calling for someone to be killed? I've seen loads of people on this forum calling for the reintroduction of capital punishment. Are they engaging in hate speech?

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You just did, they are a small but dangerous minority, you made a generalisation that enveloped the whole of the middle east.

No I didn't, Kizzy. Only Mohammedans would take offence at me calling their prophet a paedophile, so it stands to reason, that they're the ones I would be addressing. The only way you can read what I said, and assign the meaning you gave it, is actually if those are your beliefs.

The same rules that allow me to call Mohammed a paedophile, should enable followers of his to say we're murdering people in the middle east and revenge is viable.

Now unless you think every person in the middle east thinks/believes that, then it's quite an absurd accusation to throw at me.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

So the crossover line is calling for someone to be killed? I've seen loads of people on this forum calling for the reintroduction of capital punishment. Are they engaging in hate speech?

That is people discussing a change in the law, not terrorism.



No I didn't, Kizzy. Only Mohammedans would take offence at me calling their prophet a paedophile, so it stands to reason, that they're the ones I would be addressing. The only way you can read what I said, and assign the meaning you gave it, is actually if those are your beliefs.

That is how your post read jesus, you may have meant Mohammedans but that is not what you inferred.


Now unless you think every person in the middle east thinks/believes that, then it's quite an absurd accusation to throw at me.

Why is it absurd? I can only comment on your post, it was not clear what you were trying to say but that is how it sounded to me.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

1) That is people discussing a change in the law, not terrorism.


2) That is how your post read jesus, you may have meant Mohammedans but that is not what you inferred.



3) Why is it absurd? I can only comment on your post, it was not clear what you were trying to say but that is how it sounded to me.

1) I've seen people say it would be better if person x was murdered loads of times. The case of the children being accidentally murdered in a fire started by the parents and their friend (Sorry the name really escapes me) is a prime example. If someone would have actually gone through with it and then said they'd seen James (for arguments sake) say it a few times, do we start trying to deport James?

2) Mohammedans are followers of Mohammed. There is no other thing I meant to infer. Just not every single one of them on the planet.

3) Seemed pretty clear to me, and Alex didn't read it that way.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

1) I've seen people say it would be better if person x was murdered loads of times. The case of the children being accidentally murdered in a fire started by the parents and their friend (Sorry the name really escapes me) is a prime example. If someone would have actually gone through with it and then said they'd seen James (for arguments sake) say it a few times, do we start trying to deport James?

2) Mohammedans are followers of Mohammed. There is no other thing I meant to infer. Just not every single one of them on the planet.

3) Seemed pretty clear to me, and Alex didn't read it that way.

Well I'm not sure how most of this is relevant....
You can't equate people debating the law as a hate crime.
Once again you did not state Mohammedans only in your post though, it was as I said a bit general.
I can't speak for anyone else but like I said ninastar did post how widespread terrorism was in the middle east, I don't think she would have done that had I not questioned your post so you may be right there.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You are suggesting that all Muslims and in fact the whole of the middle east are extremists.

Jesus didn't say anything even remotely like that.