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Patrick · 16-06-2013, 11:37 PM

Is there one or not?

I still have my doubts - because of the two eyes, the secrets and lies theme, and the doors and of course the change in Diary Room. It all points to two houses in some way.

Emma said on her video diary last week, she slipped up and mentioned a link to an 'Upstairs' part of the house, and then on the launch night during her tour she further developed this by saying 'There's only two rooms on the DOWNSTAIRS of the house

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But was she simply referring to the Diary Room being upstairs?

JohnnyBB · 16-06-2013, 11:40 PM

theres a litte blue door under the stairs im thinking that leads to anothee house obvious youd take spiral stairs to the diaryroom but its possible.

Jack_ · 16-06-2013, 11:40 PM

I hope there's a second house, you can't have that many doors along the wall and not have any of them lead somewhere.

A little HND type of thing with another staircase that leads up to the Diary Room from the opposite side. The twist just needs to be right though, innovative and something really good. There's definitely a lot of space on that side of the house structure though to fit something in there so there best be.

Patrick · 16-06-2013, 11:48 PM

But see, they've missed about 6 good twists - that they could of easily brought into the show these past few days to tie in with the whole new theme.

If they're that idiotic to miss twists such as 'The Twin Swap', then they may be stupid enough to not have another house.

IDK, I just.. It just seems moronic to build a series around Secrets - and not have as much as a Secret House, because (i've said it once and i'll say it again) - if Michael is the only main secret of this series then I'll be seriously ******ed off.

LikeABoatOnWater · 16-06-2013, 11:53 PM

Meh I want to see a brand new twist that we have never seen before, although at this point I think they have done every twist in the book.

Jack_ · 16-06-2013, 11:54 PM

I hope Michael isn't the only secret but I'm pretty sure he won't be, what is it important to me though is that the Michael twist doesn't end early like the rest of their sh*tty little twists. It's the main 'secret', the one that was promoted for weeks and for them to end it at the end of this week or something before it's even got going will be utterly pointless. This is the one opportunity they have to do this twist properly and they need to do it right and let him settle down next week and stop shoving him in the housemates faces to make it obvious, I want him to turn nasty and start being more devious, he should be forming close bonds with people only to tear them apart 10 weeks down the line when they find out he's an actor

Also, contrast their reaction in a few days if they reveal it to him (they won't be surprised), to if he actually settles in and becomes part of the group normally and then at the end of the series they reveal everything they thought they knew about him and all the stuff he's done has been part of an act...now that'd be miles better.

It doesn't mean he takes over the series (he hasn't taken over the highlights yet), you can have him doing a couple of viewer decisions a week and still have other house action. And then throughout the series there can be loads of other twists too, like a secret house, maybe bringing another housemate in on the Michael thing, turning another one of them into an actor...revealing one of them is actually an actor too (why do I get the feeling this could happen).

But yeah, the Michael thing is the main twist they promoted and it needs to stay the length, otherwise I am going to be so pissed off.

Marsh. · 16-06-2013, 11:57 PM

I agree about Michael, they need to tone down the Big Brother's favourite and decisions and tasks that make it obvious and just let him function as all the other housemates do and just stir the pot. Hopefully the Head of House things either stop or get passed onto another housemate which will let the suspicion of Michael dissipate for a while.

Although he should be revealed around halfway through. If you leave it until the end, most of the housemates will have been evicted and we won't get to see much of an in-house reaction.

I can see them doing it gradually, such as a housemate passes a task and they get let in on the secret by BB.

Patrick · 16-06-2013, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

I hope Michael isn't the only secret but I'm pretty sure he won't be, what is it important to me though is that the Michael twist doesn't end early like the rest of their sh*tty little twists. It's the main 'secret', the one that was promoted for weeks and for them to end it at the end of this week or something before it's even got going will be utterly pointless. This is the one opportunity they have to do this twist properly and they need to do it right and let him settle down next week and stop shoving him in the housemates faces to make it obvious, I want him to turn nasty and start being more devious, he should be forming close bonds with people only to tear them apart 10 weeks down the line when they find out he's an actor

Also, contrast their reaction in a few days if they reveal it to him (they won't be surprised), to if he actually settles in and becomes part of the group normally and then at the end of the series they reveal everything they thought they knew about him and all the stuff he's done has been part of an act...now that'd be miles better.

It doesn't mean he takes over the series (he hasn't taken over the highlights yet), you can have him doing a couple of viewer decisions a week and still have other house action. And then throughout the series there can be loads of other twists too, like a secret house, maybe bringing another housemate in on the Michael thing, turning another one of them into an actor...revealing one of them is actually an actor too (why do I get the feeling this could happen).

But yeah, the Michael thing is the main twist they promoted and it needs to stay the length, otherwise I am going to be so pissed off.

I was thinking the exact same Jack!

They may hoodwink the public, I mean they did it on launch night - when they initially showed Michael's VT.

The secret - is that Michael is a mole.
The lie - is that another housemate isn't who they seem.

It's plausible tbh.

Jack_ · 17-06-2013, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh

I agree about Michael, they need to tone down the Big Brother's favourite and decisions and tasks that make it obvious and just let him function as all the other housemates do and just stir the pot. Hopefully the Head of House things either stop or get passed onto another housemate which will let the suspicion of Michael dissipate for a while.

Although he should be revealed around halfway through. If you leave it until the end, most of the housemates will have been evicted and we won't get to see much of an in-house reaction.

I can see them doing it gradually, such as a housemate passes a task and they get let in on the secret by BB.

I think they should keep the Head Housemate thing going, I said it earlier that if they don't it's just going to be a case of 'well what was the point in that' and will make them think he's something special, they need to rotate it each week so that they forget about this first week with him.

I guess that's a fair point although I'd want it quite close to the end, maybe two weeks before. 7 or 8 housemates left should be enough for a good reaction I think.

And I do think it would be interesting to let someone in on the secret, but there's always the worry that they'd just blab about it. If you told Sallie there's no way she'd keep quiet.

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Originally Posted by Patrick

I was thinking the exact same Jack!

They may hoodwink the public, I mean they did it on launch night - when they initially showed Michael's VT.

The secret - is that Michael is a mole.
The lie - is that another housemate isn't who they seem.

It's plausible tbh.

Yeah, there's something quite surreal about this series so far, idk something doesn't feel right

I just have this vision of in a week or so (or even at the end of the series) them going 'all the cast are actors, they've all been in on everything and have been playing their parts - you the viewers have been fooled, we hope you enjoyed the series though!'

It would be amazing if a few weeks in they said there's another actor though but didn't reveal who it was

and that Michael knew who it was too and said actor knew of Michael and they had both been working together the whole time. And we had to spend like the next few weeks trying to analyse them all to work out who it could be, I'd really like that.

Patrick · 17-06-2013, 12:16 AM

Would love that

If they did the first option though - that would be quite marmite

Remember back in the days of BB7 etc when BB Haters would dismiss the show and say all the housemates were 'actors' who got paid and that the whole show was staged?

LOL Imagine that actually being a reality. It would literally take the reality out of Reality TV

Marsh. · 17-06-2013, 12:19 AM

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Gina was an actress. She's just so surreal.

She's really a humble charity worker from Croydon.

Me. I Am Salman · 17-06-2013, 12:27 AM

There better be another big twist lined up.

DanielLuis · 17-06-2013, 12:29 AM

I think there is a possibility that one of the other housemates are an actor/actress. If so is true I'd say Gina or Dexter would probably be so. Maybe those articles were made specially for the show?
I think Michael should indeed stay some more weeks. Head of house should continue through the next weeks, with different housemates, and a good competition to select who wins it. Maybe, the Head of House should have the power to put someone in the block automatically. That way, even if only 2 were nominated by normal nominations, we'd be insured 3 would be up every week because of the extra head of house vote. It would work great with vote to save! Anyway, if Michael ends up being one of the most voted, he should be put up for eviction. Well, obviously we would be able to vote forhim as he is a fake housemate, but the other housemates must believe is nominated so they don't get suspicious.
And yeah, I agree there should be something like a secret house, maybe 6 people and only 2 of them get to be housemates.

Me. I Am Salman · 17-06-2013, 12:32 AM

Lol no national newspaper would make up an article for Big Brother

ThisIsNickkk · 17-06-2013, 12:49 AM

I do hope there is a sort of second house, or HND type thing.

Emma did say during the house tour that the DR is on the second floor, meaning the house is on the first floor, what's on the ground floor? Could there be a sort of basement thing?

The door under the stairs has to lead to something as there's a light above the door and none of us have seen it open yet...

Plus Emma did say some of the doors would lead to secret rooms...intriguing.

DanielLuis · 17-06-2013, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ThisIsNickkk

I do hope there is a sort of second house, or HND type thing.

Emma did say during the house tour that the DR is on the second floor, meaning the house is on the first floor, what's on the ground floor? Could there be a sort of basement thing?

The door under the stairs has to lead to something as there's a light above the door and none of us have seen it open yet...

Plus Emma did say some of the doors would lead to secret rooms...intriguing.

I think at least one of those doors in the walls by the stairs also open up. Possibly more than one even.