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Old 16-07-2013, 04:00 PM #51
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i hope when she introduces him, no one claps or boos..just silence
With that audience? Highly doubtful, they'll all probably blame Hazel and take his side. I hope Emma is stern with him
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It is unfortunate that so many TiBB members see things in black and white terms, i.e. it's all one person's fault or the other's.

I guess it's a consequence of the age profile on here- heavily weighed towards the lower end of the scale.

The world is not black and white, as many will eventually learn. You could almost say it is........ 50 shades of grey!
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He doesn't deserve any attention. He's a scumbag.
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He doesn't deserve a chance to "tell his side of the story" when the footage was clear.. He assaulted Hazel and doesn't deserve redemption.
Just because he gets to tell his side of events it doesn't mean he will get redemption. Redemption would be getting let back into the house.
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Confirmed: Emma Willis will interview Daley about his removal from the Big Brother house on tonight's Bit On The Side, 11pm, Channel 5 #bbuk
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as what we got on Ch5 last night was Edited to much
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. He assaulted Hazel and doesn't deserve redemption.
They were assaulting each other all night long until Hazel got scared when she heard those terrifying words:

"This is Big Brother..................."

At that point she knew there was a possibility BOTH of them would get kicked out for turning the safe house into a house of ill-repute. The possibility of leaving through the back door in disgrace and losing all those lucrative mag deals etc. She had a lot more to lose than Daley.

You could sense her relief in the DR when she was told it was only a formal warning. Which is why she is feeling so happy today.
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He doesn't deserve any attention. He's a scumbag.

But at 11PM
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Emma wil not let him walk all over her.
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They were assaulting each other all night long until Hazel got scared when she heard those terrifying words:

"This is Big Brother..................."

At that point she knew there was a possibility BOTH of them would get kicked out for turning the safe house into a house of ill-repute. The possibility of leaving through the back door in disgrace and losing all those lucrative mag deals etc. She had a lot more to lose than Daley.

You could sense her relief in the DR when she was told it was only a formal warning. Which is why she is feeling so happy today.
They were both playing and flirting. Daley got serious and was no longer playing.

Hazel clearly felt the change in tone as her giggling became awkward and she went quiet.

From his "respect your ****ing elders" onwards it had bugger all to do with any play acting, especially as this was exactly the tone he took in the diary room "Hazel is disrespecting me" etc.
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They were both playing and flirting. Daley got serious and was no longer playing.

Hazel clearly felt the change in tone as her giggling became awkward and she went quiet.

From his "respect your ****ing elders" onwards it had bugger all to do with any play acting, especially as this was exactly the tone he took in the diary room "Hazel is disrespecting me" etc.
Yeah, he mentioned respect and disrespect quite alot, that's pretty telling imo
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Usually if a HM is ejected they have nothing else to do with the show. I do wonder if lawyers have got involved somewhere down the line and maybe thats why he's getting a say?

I dont know..might just be for ratings too.
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Usually if a HM is ejected they have nothing else to do with the show. I do wonder if lawyers have got involved somewhere down the line and maybe thats why he's getting a say?

I dont know..might just be for ratings too.


More like his Agent said we can go to the Daily Mirror if you prefer
and go on Ch4News.

So its best they do not chuck him to the kerb.



Also is it PreRecorded?

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This isn't quite accurate, there's plenty of legal scope for shades of grey here. That he was in the wrong is not disputable... however the fact that she was initially a willing participant would be taken into account in a court of law. Not making him "innocent", but probably resulting in a less harsh response than, say, if he had done and said the same things to someone who had been obviously intimidated from the start.
I can assure you that what I said was perfectly accurate. Being a "willing participant" in any form does not excuse him striking her, nor does it excuse him laying his hands on her in an aggressive way. Whether or not she was "obviously intimidated", it doesn't detract from the fact that he assaulted her.
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Usually if a HM is ejected they have nothing else to do with the show. I do wonder if lawyers have got involved somewhere down the line and maybe thats why he's getting a say?

I dont know..might just be for ratings too.
I think Emily was on BBLB straight after she got kicked out, i can remember her apology speech but yeah i can't remember anyone else
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I can assure you that what I said was perfectly accurate. Being a "willing participant" in any form does not excuse him striking her, nor does it excuse him laying his hands on her in an aggressive way. Whether or not she was "obviously intimidated", it doesn't detract from the fact that he assaulted her.
I didn't say it excuses him, in fact I specifically said he was undoubtedly in the wrong, I was only saying that in terms of legality, it isn't black and white. In terms of whether or not it was assault, maybe it is, but in terms of any sentencing it would definitely be taken into consideration, and he would be less harshly punished.

I'm not sticking up for him or trying to vilify her - she didn't do anything wrong, they were just playing, and he should have stopped when she stopped beingcomfortae but he didn't. There's still no excuse for his actions. Just pointing out that saying its "black and white" in legal terms isn't accurate. Very few things are black and white in legal terms. Even murder isn't.
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The interview should be interesting. If Daley has been well advised, he would force Emma onto the back foot right from the start. E.g. he could imply he is getting most of the blame only because he is being stereotyped..... big black man with tattoos and muscles etc.

That would put the spotlight on BB's actions and Emma would end up on the defensive.

But it could be quite different of course!
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He definitely deserves an interview, BOTS is always going on about people's 'right to reply'. When someone gives their side of the story, they promise the other person will be allowed to too...and I've always felt that was fair. Emma said this straight after Katie's interview that Hazel will be given her 'right to reply'. This is no different, and it doesn't matter what anyone of us thinks of the situation or of him, he should be entitled to respond.
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Just wanted to add a comment to this thread. The signs of controlling behaviour were evident on Sunday nights show. Hazel was in the shower doorway talking to Daley when Daley started telling her he wanted to see her more natural and that she shouldn't wear so much make-up. It rang alarm bells with me because it was almost an order as opposed to a suggestion. It made me feel uncomfortable then and after last nights show my thoughts were well and truly confirmed. Those threats he made to Hazel did not sound like play to me. That's extremely worrying, controlling behaviour and at times he seemed very close to losing it altogether. I would be surprised if that is the first time in his life he has acted in that way. . . . .
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