[Jack_]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Apparently Emma tweeted saying that her "Takes two to tango" comment was in reference to the past four weeks and not the incident in the safehouse.
She's obviously feeling the backlash.

Which is exactly what I said she meant last night, some people really don't listen and clearly don't watch BOTS enough to know what things Emma says regularly

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by anne666

Emma has splinters in her backside from sitting on soooo many fences. Can't stand the sycophantic woman.

Not really fair on Emma. She does as she's told by the producers who, in turn, take advice as necessary from the company's lawyers.

I sensed from the hesitations last night that Emma was getting instructions via her earpiece.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Livia

Sadly, there are a lot of women around who come across as being cock-pleasers. They always see the other side when it comes to sympathising with a man, but are really hard on other women. I think it's a kind of "Look at me! I'm not like other women... I really understand you boys". Don't really get that. It's okay to criticise Hazel, it's okay not to like her... but some of the things I've read on this forum over the last couple of days have sickened me. And Emma's touchy-feel, very understanding interview with Daley, as he choked back the tears last night... Give me a *******ing break. And the fact that his "girlfriend" was there last night reinforces the idea for me that men like Daley gravitate generally toward women who'll tolerate their behaviour.

I don't want to pretend that Hazel is totally blameless, she was provocative to a degree, and in hindsight I'm sure she realises she could have handled things differently... but nothing could justify Daley's actions. And all the people calling her a ***** and a slut because she flirted with him... WTF...? She is a single woman, if he's got a girlfriend the onus is on HIM to be faithful, not her.

exactly, very well put and I completely agree

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Not really fair on Emma. She does as she's told by the producers who, in turn, take advice as necessary from the company's lawyers.

I sensed from the hesitations last night that Emma was getting instructions via her earpiece.

Agree. there was smething going on cuz she fumbled quite badly over the it takes two to tango line. I thought perhaps she didn't believe what she was saying or maybe the producers were telling her something.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Which is exactly what I said she meant last night, some people really don't listen and clearly don't watch BOTS enough to know what things Emma says regularly

Like I said earlier, Jack... Emma is a really well-paid presenter who's job it is to communicate clearly. Lots of people don't or can't watch BOTS religiously and I feel Emma should have used a less ambiguous comment for such a serious issue.

Hey, by the way :-)

[Kizzy]

His therapist advised her not to antagonise him ......

[anne666]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Not really fair on Emma. She does as she's told by the producers who, in turn, take advice as necessary from the company's lawyers.

I sensed from the hesitations last night that Emma was getting instructions via her earpiece.

Pity someone doesn't sue the company for negligence , irresponsibility or whatever.I am not a solicitor but to me they are culpable.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by RichardG

The people who have double standards are the ones who fully supported Denise pulling the twins shorts down in CBB because they hated them, yet are disgusted at Hazel pulling Daley's shorts down because they hate HER. I remember when the twins were sat in the diary room screaming "we're gonna sue!!" and everyone was moaning about what an overreaction it was, and yet Daley responds by pinning Hazel to the bed by her neck threatening to "nut her" and that's a perfectly fine reaction? There's the real double standards.

I agree with that. And I do think Hazel shouldn't have done that but I do think that a warning was sufficient as it was in Denises case

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by anne666

Pity someone doesn't sue the company for negligence , irresponsibility or whatever.I am not a solicitor but to me they are culpable.

I think so too. If Hazel had been genuinely hurt then BB would have been open to all kind of lawsuits for failing to protect a Hm.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by anne666

Pity someone doesn't sue the company for negligence , irresponsibility or whatever.I am not a solicitor but to me they are culpable.

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I think so too. If Hazel had been genuinely hurt then BB would have been open to all kind of lawsuits for failing to protect a Hm.

Got to agree with you both. They left it far too long...

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I think so too. If Hazel had been genuinely hurt then BB would have been open to all kind of lawsuits for failing to protect a Hm.

The HMs probably have to sign a legal disclaimer. You can be sure that after all these years the legal side of things is tightly drawn.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Still no excuse for how he handled it.He should have just pulled her pants down,Not threatened to nut her!

Had he pulled down her pants, he would have been evicted, which is why she should have been evicted too

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Had he pulled down her pants, he would have been evicted, which is why she should have been evicted too

How do you know that? No one has ever in the history of BB been kicked out for doing that

[Withano]

Her twitters says the comment was for the 4 weeks prior, not the event that caused him to leave the house

[Livia]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

The HMs probably have to sign a legal disclaimer. You can be sure that after all these years the legal side of things is tightly drawn.

The housemates sign a contract. You can't include clauses that would allow you to become the victim of a crime and not expect there to be consequences.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I agree with that. And I do think Hazel shouldn't have done that but I do think that a warning was sufficient as it was in Denises case

Denise was a woman, doing it to a woman, and she did not manage to pull the twins pants down completely so we saw nothing

Hazel pulled Daleys pants all the way down and therefore should have been ejected for sexual assault, which is how it would have played out had she been a guy doing it to a girl who didnt want it done

no one here is trying to justify Daleys actions but please stop trying to justify Hazel cause we are all gonna let her (and the rest of the housemates) know exactly what went on, when we all boo her to f..k on Friday night

Dans face will be a confused picture lololololol

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Denise was a woman, doing it to a woman, and she did not manage to pull the twins pants down completely so we saw nothing

Hazel pulled Daleys pants all the way down and therefore should have been ejected for sexual assault, which is how it would have played out had she been a guy doing it to a girl who didnt want it done

no one here is trying to justify Daleys actions but please stop trying to justify Hazel cause we are all gonna let her (and the rest of the housemates) know exactly what went on, when we all boo her to f..k on Friday night

Dans face will be a confused picture lololololol

That was not sexual assult. "Intent". Look it up.

And I'm sure Hazel will get booed. All the women will boo the beautiful model... same as always.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

The HMs probably have to sign a legal disclaimer. You can be sure that after all these years the legal side of things is tightly drawn.

I don't think so. Its like on I'm a celeb when certain contestants are excused from tasks on medical grounds. As soon as they enter the show the producers have an obligation to protect them and thus BB has been accused of being over protective at times. I think BB knows they kept the camera rolling for a few seconds too long on Sunday and thus the evidence has gone online and the arse licking interview with Daley last night.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

Hazel pulled Daley's boxers down and slapped him on the bottom.IMO Nothing justifies him pinning her down then gesturing to head butt her.

Is it right that most on BBOTS will do anything to justify cementing opposition against one of their targets, which at the moment is Hazel for what I think too was horrible behaviour how she used to flirt with Daley and was the main one leading things between them.

Is it right they were saying that her pulling down his boxers and slapping him instigated and was partly responsible for him threatening her later by holding her down then threatening to nut her ?

The answer to your thread question is

YES

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I don't think so. Its like on I'm a celeb when certain contestants are excused from tasks on medical grounds. As soon as they enter the show the producers have an obligation to protect them and thus BB has been accused of being over protective at times. I think BB knows they kept the camera rolling for a few seconds too long on Sunday and thus the evidence has gone online and the arse licking interview with Daley last night.

Celeb shows are very different with individual contracts.

BB contestants will all have signed a standard contract.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How do you know that? No one has ever in the history of BB been kicked out for doing that

This .I am fed up with hearing the pant pulling down excuse . That kind of behaviour has been part and parcel of BB since it began

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Livia

Sadly, there are a lot of women around who come across as being cock-pleasers. They always see the other side when it comes to sympathising with a man, but are really hard on other women. I think it's a kind of "Look at me! I'm not like other women... I really understand you boys". Don't really get that. It's okay to criticise Hazel, it's okay not to like her... but some of the things I've read on this forum over the last couple of days have sickened me. And Emma's touchy-feel, very understanding interview with Daley, as he choked back the tears last night... Give me a *******ing break. And the fact that his "girlfriend" was there last night reinforces the idea for me that men like Daley gravitate generally toward women who'll tolerate their behaviour.

I don't want to pretend that Hazel is totally blameless, she was provocative to a degree, and in hindsight I'm sure she realises she could have handled things differently... but nothing could justify Daley's actions. And all the people calling her a ***** and a slut because she flirted with him... WTF...? She is a single woman, if he's got a girlfriend the onus is on HIM to be faithful, not her.

i knew i liked you!

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by anne666

This .I am fed up with hearing the pant pulling down excuse . That kind of behaviour has been part and parcel of BB since it began

when you are a lot older most on here will be glad to have someone pulling their pants down to avoid embarrassment

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Emma tells it like it is, she understands (like most girls) exactly what Hazel was up to, unfortunately the men on here seem a but stupid when it comes to girls like this

EMMA WILLIS TELLS IT LIKE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CANT WAIT FOR HAZZELS INTERVIEW (if she gets one)lol

The day Emma tells it like it is I will believe she is at last earning her salary.To sign away chunks of ones integrity is not really something I admire.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

when you are a lot older most on here will glad to have someone pulling their pants down to avoid embarrassment

I am not far away from that, I am older I'm afraid LOL