[Pink Pegasus]

Originally Posted by smeagol

she doesn't like him cause he is untrustworthy and creepy.
he said he was ladies man jack the lad he went in and became the complete opposite. being overally nice to everybody to the point of throwin up. and chasing her daughter even though she isnt interested, he got sussed out and got put up for eviction.
then fearing he would go he completely changed his act again
starting on wolf havin a go at dex etc being bitchy and weird. and very cocky like sophie and everybody in there says.

so why doesn't jacky like poor callum ? lol

now he has act 3 the sympathy vote. poor me im from a council house im the boy up the road he repeats it over and over every chance he gets.
but why does he try to speak like tony blair? if he is from a council house eveything is contrived.
she doesn't like him cause he isn't real and still isn't being real

funny thing is he might be ok if he dropped the game plans.

I get what you're saying but then why doesn't she also hate Dexter for being different in his vt and for his gameplaying? She said she has warmed to Dexter now, is that because he kisses her ass a bit?
Callum admitted that he had lied in his vt, Dexter maintains that he was truthful and that he really was that way with women, so why does she prefer and like Dexter but won't even give Callum a chance?
She complained about him being too nice but when he started speaking his mind more he gets accused of acting again or even worse - being 'aggressive'. He just can't win!

[anne666]

Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx

I get what you're saying but then why doesn't she also hate Dexter for being different in his vt and for his gameplaying? She said she has warmed to Dexter now, is that because he kisses her ass a bit?
Callum admitted that he had lied in his vt, Dexter maintains that he was truthful and that he really was that way with women, so why does she prefer and like Dexter but won't even give Callum a chance?
She complained about him being too nice but when he started speaking his mind more he gets accused of acting again or even worse - being 'aggressive'. He just can't win!

His mother turned up and she backed down then.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx

I get what you're saying but then why doesn't she also hate Dexter for being different in his vt and for his gameplaying? She said she has warmed to Dexter now, is that because he kisses her ass a bit?
Callum admitted that he had lied in his vt, Dexter maintains that he was truthful and that he really was that way with women, so why does she prefer and like Dexter but won't even give Callum a chance?
She complained about him being too nice but when he started speaking his mind more he gets accused of acting again or even worse - being 'aggressive'. He just can't win!

cause of the personality changes he has. it isnt just jacky even sophie twins etc say the same and noticed it. they just dont trust him.
no idear about the threatening thing. maybe we arn't seeing everything or she's over reacting , maybe he went into one of his jim carey rants like he did in the kitchen that day and it looked bad. who knows
maybe jacky wants him out so she can stay. and made it up. who knows

[Pink Pegasus]

Originally Posted by smeagol

cause of the personality changes he has. it isnt just jacky even sophie twins etc say the same and noticed it. they just dont trust him.
no idear about the threatening thing. maybe we arn't seeing everything or she's over reacting , maybe he went into one of his jim carey rants like he did in the kitchen that day and it looked bad. who knows
maybe jacky wants him out so she can stay. and made it up. who knows

Yeah a lot of people seem to dislike him in there now. I felt he was quite well liked until Dan started telling everybody that Callums' niceness was "awkward". They all even started using the same word as Dan to describe Callum as "awkward" - intentional or not Dan's opinion holds a lot of weight in the house. Even bb chose him as an influential housemate. (I am a Dan fan though.)

Before all that I felt Charlie genuinely liked him, and he seemed very close to Sophie too. I feel it's sad that they all turned on him. I feel that any personality change he had he was pushed into. If you are constantly day after day getting slated for being "too nice" and "fake" then of course you will snap eventually and start disliking and being less nice towards these people who are saying that to to you. But then because he gets annoyed, and because he starts to make more of an effort to be a bit more opinionated in an attempt to stop being labelled as fake, he then gets slated for acting the big lad or being aggressive.

If Jackie doesn't like him because of personality changes then fair enough (although I think she still disliked him before he ever started speaking up to her),
but then why also not dislike Dexter for the same thing?
Everyone in house hated Dexter for being a sneaky snake, gameplaying, spreading stories between people lying etc.
Suddenly he starts licking all their arses, and develops 'feelings' for Charlie and now he is a lovely person because he is being himself and "stopped his silly gameplaying".

Why isn't his new-found 'niceness' called fake? Why is he not still being called untrustworthy and a gameplayer for his sudden personality change?
[Not directing these questions solely at you btw, just asking them in general]

I just don't believe the reasons Jackie gives for disliking Callum, because she seems to have started liking Dexter for the same reasons as she dislikes Callum. - Changing personality etc.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx

Yeah a lot of people seem to dislike him in there now. I felt he was quite well liked until Dan started telling everybody that Callums' niceness was "awkward". They all even started using the same word as Dan to describe Callum as "awkward" - intentional or not Dan's opinion holds a lot of weight in the house. Even bb chose him as an influential housemate. (I am a Dan fan though.)

Before all that I felt Charlie genuinely liked him, and he seemed very close to Sophie too. I feel it's sad that they all turned on him. I feel that any personality change he had he was pushed into. If you are constantly day after day getting slated for being "too nice" and "fake" then of course you will snap eventually and start disliking and being less nice towards these people who are saying that to to you. But then because he gets annoyed, and because he starts to make more of an effort to be a bit more opinionated in an attempt to stop being labelled as fake, he then gets slated for acting the big lad or being aggressive.

If Jackie doesn't like him because of personality changes then fair enough (although I think she still disliked him before he ever started speaking up to her),
but then why also not dislike Dexter for the same thing?
Everyone in house hated Dexter for being a sneaky snake, gameplaying, spreading stories between people lying etc.
Suddenly he starts licking all their arses, and develops 'feelings' for Charlie and now he is a lovely person because he is being himself and "stopped his silly gameplaying".

Why isn't his new-found 'niceness' called fake? Why is he not still being called untrustworthy and a gameplayer for his sudden personality change?
[Not directing these questions solely at you btw, just asking them in general]

I just don't believe the reasons Jackie gives for disliking Callum, because she seems to have started liking Dexter for the same reasons as she dislikes Callum. - Changing personality etc.

well ive always thought callum was playing a game and still do. i think dan caught him out the same as wolfy and the mole .
one interesting thing i found was sophie saying he is cocky etc that wasn't from dam that was her and they all agreed. we dont see it all. and for her to say that was interesting.

jacky likes dexter more cause he knows how to act with people he is never nasty or bitchy unlike callum he never raises his voice. etc etc. and isnt all over charlie. he keeps a respectful distance.
plus really i just think its cause they find him amusing and interesting. where as callum is well weird.
jacky dont trust neither of them. but callum tries to hard he annoys her it seems.

i think her dislike is valid. the threatening thing prob not.

[Pink Pegasus]

Originally Posted by smeagol

well ive always thought callum was playing a game and still do. i think dan caught him out the same as wolfy and the mole .
one interesting thing i found was sophie saying he is cocky etc that wasn't from dam that was her and they all agreed. we dont see it all. and for her to say that was interesting.

jacky likes dexter more cause he knows how to act with people he is never nasty or bitchy unlike callum he never raises his voice. etc etc. and isnt all over charlie. he keeps a respectful distance.
plus really i just think its cause they find him amusing and interesting. where as callum is well weird.
jacky dont trust neither of them. but callum tries to hard he annoys her it seems.

i think her dislike is valid. the threatening thing prob not.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this I think because I think Dexter has no romantic feelings whatsoever for Charlie and that it is completely fake. Charlie even said herself that his feelings seem completely fake too. Whereas I think Callum genuinely likes Charlie and has done from the very start. I also don't find him creepy. So we have opposite opinions on this.

I agree with you though that Jackie calling him threatening or aggressive is wrong, and I also agree with you that Dan is normally quite astute at picking up on things and reading people - regarding Callum though I don't think he's right. I think his anger at getting nominated by Callum and subsequently being up for eviction clouded his judgment regarding Callum.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx

We'll have to agree to disagree on this I think because I think Dexter has no romantic feelings whatsoever for Charlie and that it is completely fake. Charlie even said herself that his feelings seem completely fake too. Whereas I think Callum genuinely likes Charlie and has done from the very start. I also don't find him creepy. So we have opposite opinions on this.

I agree with you though that Jackie calling him threatening or aggressive is wrong, and I also agree with you that Dan is normally quite astute at picking up on things and reading people - regarding Callum though I don't think he's right. I think his anger at getting nominated by Callum and subsequently being up for eviction clouded his judgment regarding Callum.

yea cant always agree huh!

well jacky is gone tonight charlie can have them both

[Pink Pegasus]

Originally Posted by smeagol

yea cant always agree huh!

well jacky is gone tonight charlie can have them both

Mummy Travers won't be happy!

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by smeagol

yea cant always agree huh!

well jacky is gone tonight charlie can have them both

The first Big Brother thresome!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx

I get what you're saying but then why doesn't she also hate Dexter for being different in his vt and for his gameplaying? She said she has warmed to Dexter now, is that because he kisses her ass a bit?
Callum admitted that he had lied in his vt, Dexter maintains that he was truthful and that he really was that way with women, so why does she prefer and like Dexter but won't even give Callum a chance?
She complained about him being too nice but when he started speaking his mind more he gets accused of acting again or even worse - being 'aggressive'. He just can't win!

Great post