[smeagol]

Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx

Yeah a lot of people seem to dislike him in there now. I felt he was quite well liked until Dan started telling everybody that Callums' niceness was "awkward". They all even started using the same word as Dan to describe Callum as "awkward" - intentional or not Dan's opinion holds a lot of weight in the house. Even bb chose him as an influential housemate. (I am a Dan fan though.)

Before all that I felt Charlie genuinely liked him, and he seemed very close to Sophie too. I feel it's sad that they all turned on him. I feel that any personality change he had he was pushed into. If you are constantly day after day getting slated for being "too nice" and "fake" then of course you will snap eventually and start disliking and being less nice towards these people who are saying that to to you. But then because he gets annoyed, and because he starts to make more of an effort to be a bit more opinionated in an attempt to stop being labelled as fake, he then gets slated for acting the big lad or being aggressive.

If Jackie doesn't like him because of personality changes then fair enough (although I think she still disliked him before he ever started speaking up to her),
but then why also not dislike Dexter for the same thing?
Everyone in house hated Dexter for being a sneaky snake, gameplaying, spreading stories between people lying etc.
Suddenly he starts licking all their arses, and develops 'feelings' for Charlie and now he is a lovely person because he is being himself and "stopped his silly gameplaying".

Why isn't his new-found 'niceness' called fake? Why is he not still being called untrustworthy and a gameplayer for his sudden personality change?
[Not directing these questions solely at you btw, just asking them in general]

I just don't believe the reasons Jackie gives for disliking Callum, because she seems to have started liking Dexter for the same reasons as she dislikes Callum. - Changing personality etc.

well ive always thought callum was playing a game and still do. i think dan caught him out the same as wolfy and the mole .
one interesting thing i found was sophie saying he is cocky etc that wasn't from dam that was her and they all agreed. we dont see it all. and for her to say that was interesting.

jacky likes dexter more cause he knows how to act with people he is never nasty or bitchy unlike callum he never raises his voice. etc etc. and isnt all over charlie. he keeps a respectful distance.
plus really i just think its cause they find him amusing and interesting. where as callum is well weird.
jacky dont trust neither of them. but callum tries to hard he annoys her it seems.

i think her dislike is valid. the threatening thing prob not.

[Pink Pegasus]

Originally Posted by smeagol

well ive always thought callum was playing a game and still do. i think dan caught him out the same as wolfy and the mole .
one interesting thing i found was sophie saying he is cocky etc that wasn't from dam that was her and they all agreed. we dont see it all. and for her to say that was interesting.

jacky likes dexter more cause he knows how to act with people he is never nasty or bitchy unlike callum he never raises his voice. etc etc. and isnt all over charlie. he keeps a respectful distance.
plus really i just think its cause they find him amusing and interesting. where as callum is well weird.
jacky dont trust neither of them. but callum tries to hard he annoys her it seems.

i think her dislike is valid. the threatening thing prob not.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this I think because I think Dexter has no romantic feelings whatsoever for Charlie and that it is completely fake. Charlie even said herself that his feelings seem completely fake too. Whereas I think Callum genuinely likes Charlie and has done from the very start. I also don't find him creepy. So we have opposite opinions on this.

I agree with you though that Jackie calling him threatening or aggressive is wrong, and I also agree with you that Dan is normally quite astute at picking up on things and reading people - regarding Callum though I don't think he's right. I think his anger at getting nominated by Callum and subsequently being up for eviction clouded his judgment regarding Callum.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx

We'll have to agree to disagree on this I think because I think Dexter has no romantic feelings whatsoever for Charlie and that it is completely fake. Charlie even said herself that his feelings seem completely fake too. Whereas I think Callum genuinely likes Charlie and has done from the very start. I also don't find him creepy. So we have opposite opinions on this.

I agree with you though that Jackie calling him threatening or aggressive is wrong, and I also agree with you that Dan is normally quite astute at picking up on things and reading people - regarding Callum though I don't think he's right. I think his anger at getting nominated by Callum and subsequently being up for eviction clouded his judgment regarding Callum.

yea cant always agree huh!

well jacky is gone tonight charlie can have them both

[Pink Pegasus]

Originally Posted by smeagol

yea cant always agree huh!

well jacky is gone tonight charlie can have them both

Mummy Travers won't be happy!

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by smeagol

yea cant always agree huh!

well jacky is gone tonight charlie can have them both

The first Big Brother thresome!

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

The first Big Brother thresome!

lol first bb spit roast i can just picture callum behind screaming soar soar soar lol and dex in fron sayin what what what lol
charlie obviously wouldn't be able to speak ssh smeagol dont say what you was going to lol

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by smeagol

lol first bb spit roast i can just picture callum behind screaming soar soar soar lol and dex in fron sayin what what what lol
charlie obviously wouldn't be able to speak ssh smeagol dont say what you was going to lol

[MilkMaid]

I think Jackie's unreasonable attitude towards Callum derives from her over-protectiveness of Charlie. However, this has become extreme to say the least.

I nearly puked on my custard creams when Jackie's friend referred to her as posh. Hilarious! The great thing about BB is that accolades such as 'posh' and 'intelligent' are so relative... When they've had tasks in previous years based around the so-called cleverest housemate, we've been lucky if they can recite their ABC...

(My favourite was the smug Rex telling Rachel Rice that there was no such word as 'absorption', deriding her and using this as more 'evidence' of her being fake, not really a teacher, etc, a theory flawed by the fact that the word does exist. Of course, no other HM had a sufficiently high IQ to know that he was wrong...)

But I digress...Jackie is a posh as Eliza Doolittle before Henry Higgins got his hands on her (that's not ED the singer, me young mates). Not that these things matter to fair-minded people; she is certainly lacking class in her demeanour, and that is important.

Callum may come across as a bit of a tit when he's had too much to drink but overall I think he's a decent chap. He talked a load of...nonsense...to get on the show but who has really ever lived down to their VT and not been a boring git?

While I like Dexter keeping things interesting in the house, he is a weasel! You could not trust him when you turned your back or even before it! Bizarrely, he's probably a bit like Callum in that they're both rather mixed-up.

Anyway, to sum up, the only good thing about Jackie is Rylan's impression of her.