[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

Yes, who next for a character assassination to their own face? Can you picture somebody talking to another person like that in the real world? Dan is not all bad and I certainly don't hate him but he is so dismissive of other people, it's ridiculous.

I wish that some of the posters who dislike him being criticized would balance their arguments with examples of his good qualities, rather than protest that he's 'entertaining', which is purely subjective.

We'd like to see the same vice versa too,are you saying anything about them that don't.

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

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We'd like to see the same vice versa too,are you saying anything about them that don't.

It should apply to both sides! However, the OP presented Dan having a rant about Callum, behind his back. Dan's also pulled Callum's character apart to his face. Surely it's up to Dan's supporters to come up with examples which balance this sort of behaviour.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

It should apply to both sides! However, the OP presented Dan having a rant about Callum, behind his back. Dan's also pulled Callum's character apart to his face. Surely it's up to Dan's supporters to come up with examples which balance this sort of behaviour.

I have given loads of really comprehensive counter balancing as to Dan on all aspects of his time in the house, down to what I see are his faults and also what he needs to control too as well as all that I see as good in him,in loads of threads on BB this series.

I see flaws in all the housemates and have never gone on getting at housemates that I even don't care for the way some have as to Dan.

However I now shut up a lot because I was accused of being too defensive and also actually got some real nastiness thrown at me too.

I keep a lot of my own counsel now as to what I would really like to say. However I am also a Dexter fan and Gina fan,should I go on abaout them as I do Dan, that would be all fine.
I only get pulled up as to my defences of Dan.
I get people don't like him and that is their right too,however it is clear to me, I would get away with a great deal more, if I said about Dexter what I do as to Dan.
That is really sad as far as I am concerned and also unfair.

[Vanessa]

The split vote is not going to help Dan. Some people are voting for Sam, while others for Sophie. What's the point in that?

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have given loads of really comprehensive counter balancing as to Dan on all aspects of his time in the house, down to what I see are his faults and also what he needs to control too as well as all that I see as good in him,in loads of threads on BB this series.

I see flaws in all the housemates and have never gone on getting at housemates that I even don't care for the way some have as to Dan.

However I now shut up a lot because I was accused of being too defensive and also actually got some real nastiness thrown at me too.

I keep a lot of my own counsel now as to what I would really like to say. However I am also a Dexter fan and Gina fan,should I go on abaout them as I do Dan, that would be all fine.
I only get pulled up as to my defences of Dan.
I get people don't like him and that is their right too,however it is clear to me, I would get away with a great deal more, if I said about Dexter what I do as to Dan.
That is really sad as far as I am concerned and also unfair.

It's a sad state of affairs if people feel constrained in voicing their opinions (provided they don't break any rules). God only knows, people get carried away in their loyalties. There could be a few surprises tomorrow night, whatever happens will make a big impact in the house.

[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have given loads of really comprehensive counter balancing as to Dan on all aspects of his time in the house, down to what I see are his faults and also what he needs to control too as well as all that I see as good in him,in loads of threads on BB this series.

I see flaws in all the housemates and have never gone on getting at housemates that I even don't care for the way some have as to Dan.

However I now shut up a lot because I was accused of being too defensive and also actually got some real nastiness thrown at me too.

I keep a lot of my own counsel now as to what I would really like to say. However I am also a Dexter fan and Gina fan,should I go on abaout them as I do Dan, that would be all fine.
I only get pulled up as to my defences of Dan.
I get people don't like him and that is their right too,however it is clear to me, I would get away with a great deal more, if I said about Dexter what I do as to Dan.
That is really sad as far as I am concerned and also unfair.

Once again, I agree with every word. I have to say are one of the nicest, fairest people on this forum, and you are hardly going to like a horrible character, but still such is the Dan hate that even you get a hard time. It's incomprehensible that the likes of Dexter's character can be admired and every single thing he does defended, yet Dan just has to say boo and there's a thread about how awful he is.
Dan is no saint, but my goodness, he's far from the devil incarnate that he's made out to be.
If some can't (or don't want to) see his value, his warmth, his kindness, and therefore overlook some of his less stellar moments, then there isn't a thing you or I can do about it. I think we agree that neither of us have a problem with someone not liking him - it's the OTT, drip drip drip, pick pick pick that grates on us.
It's one of the mysteries of this years BB, and unfortunately it takes away some of the enjoyment for us, but we are still here and supporting our man and plenty of others are too!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jet

Once again, I agree with every word. I have to say are one of the nicest, fairest people on this forum, and you are hardly going to like a horrible character, but still such is the Dan hate that even you get a hard time. It's incomprehensible that the likes of Dexter's character can be admired and every single thing he does defended, yet Dan just has to say boo and there's a thread about how awful he is.
Dan is no saint, but my goodness, he's far from the devil incarnate that he's made out to be.
If some can't (or don't want to) see his value, his warmth, his kindness, and therefore overlook some of his less stellar moments, then there isn't a thing you or I can do about it. I think we agree that neither of us have a problem with someone not liking him - it's the OTT, drip drip drip, pick pick pick that grates on us.
It's one of the mysteries of this years BB, and unfortunately it takes away some of the enjoyment for us, but we are still here and supporting our man and plenty of others are too!

Thank you jet,you make posting worthwhile, you are a really fair poster too.

[rusticgal]

Dont we need to see housemates speak up....too many of them in there keeping opinions to themselves to 'appear nice'. I like people with an opinion and who are not frightened to express themselves. It would be such a boring show to watch people say things just to appease.
Dan risks everything by his honesty....for that reason alone I love him....Get Sophie out and lets enjoy opinionated people...not dullards.