[jet]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

I tried ever so hard to find some positives. But I failed. Sorry!

My commiserations. Failure is never easy to deal with, but don't let it get you down.

[actor99]

you never here Callum going on talking bad about anyone apart from darter. which is understandable. but Dan picks on mostly everyone. Dan will hate it he being up. and Callun not.. great stuff

[Lex]

Originally Posted by bez87

gave up a massive career as a police detective and left his son, just to go on the show, pretty sure thats massive, i mean

Callum is just a kids football coach so he can just put that on hold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=v3cayRMnVb8


....Ahh! that's it!!...It's a good disguise alright, but I knew i'd seen him before somewhere?..cheers Bez!

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes, i agree with you. He did it with Michael, Dexter, Wolfy and Callum.

Yes, who next for a character assassination to their own face? Can you picture somebody talking to another person like that in the real world? Dan is not all bad and I certainly don't hate him but he is so dismissive of other people, it's ridiculous.

I wish that some of the posters who dislike him being criticized would balance their arguments with examples of his good qualities, rather than protest that he's 'entertaining', which is purely subjective.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by jet

My commiserations. Failure is never easy to deal with, but don't let it get you down.

I won't don't worry!

I always look forward - I'm particularly looking forward to tomorrow night!

[jet]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

I won't don't worry!

I always look forward - I'm particularly looking forward to tomorrow night!

Me too! Even if Dan is evicted he will walk out a proud man who was popular with the HM's and didn't even get nominated. How many HM's have been able to say that! He'll get loads of attention due to the circumstances of his eviction and people will sympathize with him. I can't wait!
And if he isn't evicted I'll be even happier of course. It's a win - win situation.

[jet]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

Yes, who next for a character assassination to their own face? Can you picture somebody talking to another person like that in the real world? Dan is not all bad and I certainly don't hate him but he is so dismissive of other people, it's ridiculous.

I wish that some of the people who dislike him being criticized would balance their arguments with examples of his good qualities, rather than protest that he's 'entertaining', which I purely subjective.

They have done, many times.
I love Dan because he's REAL, he's funny, he's not afraid to just be himself, faults and all.

I love that he sticks up for people when they are treated unfairly whther he likes them or not (like Callum - just one example.)

I love that when HM's are complaining about someone he tries to make excuses for the person they are moaning about to defuse the situation.) This happens countless times but no -one ever mentions it.

I love that he is the first person to comfort someone if they are upset and that the other HM's go to him to talk to and get a hug.

I love that he sometimes seems a bit shy when out of his comfort zone.

I love that he is warm hearted and there is not a malicious bone in his body.

Is that enough to be going on with?

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by jet

Me too! Even if Dan is evicted he will walk out a proud man who was popular with the HM's and didn't even get nominated. How many HM's have been able to say that! He'll get loads of attention due to the circumstances of his eviction and people will sympathize with him. I can't wait!
And if he isn't evicted I'll be even happier of course. It's a win - win situation.

You are winding us up, right? Could it be that you'll actually be gutted if he's evicted?

[jet]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

You are winding us up, right? Could it be that you'll actually be gutted if he's evicted?

I honestly won't be. He's not going to win anyway, so he might as well go out well liked and with not one nom from the HM's.
Of course I'd like him to stay in because he's my fav, I think he's a great HM and I'll miss him and think he's been treated unfairly by BB - but gutted? No.

[CaudleHalbard]

I'm sure Dan will be able to endlessly rationalise his eviction over two dull housemates! Lol!

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by jet

They have done, many times.
I love Dan because he's REAL, he's funny, he's not afraid to just be himself, faults and all.

I love that he sticks up for people when they are treated unfairly whther he likes them or not (like Callum - just one example.)

I love that when HM's are complaining about someone he tries to make excuses for the person they are moaning about to defuse the situation.) This happens countless times but no -one ever mentions it.

I love that he is the first person to comfort someone if they are upset and that the other HM's go to him to talk to and get a hug.

I love that he sometimes seems a bit shy when out of his comfort zone.

I love that he is warm hearted and there is not a malicious bone in his body.

Is that enough to be going on with?

That's a lot of love! Rather than examples of Dan's actions, you have presented a list of reasons why you love him.

Dan is not all bad, but he does have a couple of awful qualities, both well demonstrated in the OP.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Interesting that you only home in on the voice aspect. I can only assume you can't rebut the rest of it. Fair enough!

I said I wouldn't discuss much with you after yesterday,I thought the voice element was a very weak and unnecessary thing to judge anyone on so said so.
Other than that I'd rather not discuss anything with you now. So please don't sort of try to have me do so.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

Yes, who next for a character assassination to their own face? Can you picture somebody talking to another person like that in the real world? Dan is not all bad and I certainly don't hate him but he is so dismissive of other people, it's ridiculous.

I wish that some of the posters who dislike him being criticized would balance their arguments with examples of his good qualities, rather than protest that he's 'entertaining', which is purely subjective.

We'd like to see the same vice versa too,are you saying anything about them that don't.

[jet]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

That's a lot of love! Rather than examples of Dan's actions, you have presented a list of reasons why you love him.

Dan is not all bad, but he does have a couple of awful qualities, both well demonstrated in the OP.

I've presented a list of his good qualities, which are the reasons why I love and support him. I haven't got all night to give examples of Dan's good actions - you watch the same show I do so you must have seen them for yourself.
Obviously his bad qualities out weight the many good ones for you so even if I listed them it wouldn't make any difference anyway.

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

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We'd like to see the same vice versa too,are you saying anything about them that don't.

It should apply to both sides! However, the OP presented Dan having a rant about Callum, behind his back. Dan's also pulled Callum's character apart to his face. Surely it's up to Dan's supporters to come up with examples which balance this sort of behaviour.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Im_Juz_ChiLLin

I loved the video personally, hope Dan stays now throw a few votes sophie's way Im in total agreement with him on this one Creepster Callum is just cringe material, good on you Dan....

Waste of money. Vote for Sam.

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by jet

I've presented a list of his good qualities, which are the reasons why I love and support him. I haven't got all night to give examples of Dan's good actions - you watch the same show I do so you must have seen them for yourself.
Obviously his bad qualities out weight the many good ones for you so even if I listed them it wouldn't make any difference anyway.

Fair enough, and you're right, I don't see a lot of the good. Tomorrow night could be close, and will be exciting. Even if he goes, I don't think we've seen the last of Dan...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Waste of money. Vote for Sam.

But Sam is safe. Sophie is the one whose odds are close to Dan.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

It should apply to both sides! However, the OP presented Dan having a rant about Callum, behind his back. Dan's also pulled Callum's character apart to his face. Surely it's up to Dan's supporters to come up with examples which balance this sort of behaviour.

I have given loads of really comprehensive counter balancing as to Dan on all aspects of his time in the house, down to what I see are his faults and also what he needs to control too as well as all that I see as good in him,in loads of threads on BB this series.

I see flaws in all the housemates and have never gone on getting at housemates that I even don't care for the way some have as to Dan.

However I now shut up a lot because I was accused of being too defensive and also actually got some real nastiness thrown at me too.

I keep a lot of my own counsel now as to what I would really like to say. However I am also a Dexter fan and Gina fan,should I go on abaout them as I do Dan, that would be all fine.
I only get pulled up as to my defences of Dan.
I get people don't like him and that is their right too,however it is clear to me, I would get away with a great deal more, if I said about Dexter what I do as to Dan.
That is really sad as far as I am concerned and also unfair.

[Vanessa]

The split vote is not going to help Dan. Some people are voting for Sam, while others for Sophie. What's the point in that?

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have given loads of really comprehensive counter balancing as to Dan on all aspects of his time in the house, down to what I see are his faults and also what he needs to control too as well as all that I see as good in him,in loads of threads on BB this series.

I see flaws in all the housemates and have never gone on getting at housemates that I even don't care for the way some have as to Dan.

However I now shut up a lot because I was accused of being too defensive and also actually got some real nastiness thrown at me too.

I keep a lot of my own counsel now as to what I would really like to say. However I am also a Dexter fan and Gina fan,should I go on abaout them as I do Dan, that would be all fine.
I only get pulled up as to my defences of Dan.
I get people don't like him and that is their right too,however it is clear to me, I would get away with a great deal more, if I said about Dexter what I do as to Dan.
That is really sad as far as I am concerned and also unfair.

It's a sad state of affairs if people feel constrained in voicing their opinions (provided they don't break any rules). God only knows, people get carried away in their loyalties. There could be a few surprises tomorrow night, whatever happens will make a big impact in the house.

[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have given loads of really comprehensive counter balancing as to Dan on all aspects of his time in the house, down to what I see are his faults and also what he needs to control too as well as all that I see as good in him,in loads of threads on BB this series.

I see flaws in all the housemates and have never gone on getting at housemates that I even don't care for the way some have as to Dan.

However I now shut up a lot because I was accused of being too defensive and also actually got some real nastiness thrown at me too.

I keep a lot of my own counsel now as to what I would really like to say. However I am also a Dexter fan and Gina fan,should I go on abaout them as I do Dan, that would be all fine.
I only get pulled up as to my defences of Dan.
I get people don't like him and that is their right too,however it is clear to me, I would get away with a great deal more, if I said about Dexter what I do as to Dan.
That is really sad as far as I am concerned and also unfair.

Once again, I agree with every word. I have to say are one of the nicest, fairest people on this forum, and you are hardly going to like a horrible character, but still such is the Dan hate that even you get a hard time. It's incomprehensible that the likes of Dexter's character can be admired and every single thing he does defended, yet Dan just has to say boo and there's a thread about how awful he is.
Dan is no saint, but my goodness, he's far from the devil incarnate that he's made out to be.
If some can't (or don't want to) see his value, his warmth, his kindness, and therefore overlook some of his less stellar moments, then there isn't a thing you or I can do about it. I think we agree that neither of us have a problem with someone not liking him - it's the OTT, drip drip drip, pick pick pick that grates on us.
It's one of the mysteries of this years BB, and unfortunately it takes away some of the enjoyment for us, but we are still here and supporting our man and plenty of others are too!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jet

Once again, I agree with every word. I have to say are one of the nicest, fairest people on this forum, and you are hardly going to like a horrible character, but still such is the Dan hate that even you get a hard time. It's incomprehensible that the likes of Dexter's character can be admired and every single thing he does defended, yet Dan just has to say boo and there's a thread about how awful he is.
Dan is no saint, but my goodness, he's far from the devil incarnate that he's made out to be.
If some can't (or don't want to) see his value, his warmth, his kindness, and therefore overlook some of his less stellar moments, then there isn't a thing you or I can do about it. I think we agree that neither of us have a problem with someone not liking him - it's the OTT, drip drip drip, pick pick pick that grates on us.
It's one of the mysteries of this years BB, and unfortunately it takes away some of the enjoyment for us, but we are still here and supporting our man and plenty of others are too!

Thank you jet,you make posting worthwhile, you are a really fair poster too.

[rusticgal]

Dont we need to see housemates speak up....too many of them in there keeping opinions to themselves to 'appear nice'. I like people with an opinion and who are not frightened to express themselves. It would be such a boring show to watch people say things just to appease.
Dan risks everything by his honesty....for that reason alone I love him....Get Sophie out and lets enjoy opinionated people...not dullards.