[the truth]

Originally Posted by anne666

Sorry I misinterpreted the beginning of your post. Firstly I would not be on that position with a man I did not know. If my partner behaved like that in fun as she was I would laugh at him, nothing more and give him a sleeping pill.There was NO malicious intent on Hazel's part as far as I am concerned.Hazel is only interested in publicity and doesn't care who she uses or what she does to get it. Zelebrity is the best she will achieve and I have no doubt she will capitalize on all of this.

IF youd been in the same position as daley was the question? with another persn jumping into your bed against your wishes, on top of you, pillow over your face, depriving you off sleep , demanding physical contact and exposing your genitalia on national tv against your will..while your family watched in front of millions..how would you have felt if this happened to you?...please answer this question ?

[anne666]

Originally Posted by the truth

IF youd been in the same position as daley was the question? with another persn jumping into your bed against your wishes, on top of you, pillow over your face, depriving you off sleep , demanding physical contact and exposing your genitalia on national tv against your will..while your family watched in front of millions..how would you have felt if this happened to you?...please answer this question ?

I would have felt exactly the same as I said in my post.Why was there any reason for her to think otherwise? She had no idea what a rage he was in !!!! OK m'lord LOL

[kefln]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

I'm referring to BB not the contestants, they know what is happening and are watching just like the viewers, except that BB have the power. Surely you would agree that they should have intervened when the hands went around the throat?

Of course, it should never have gotten that far. But it was a very odd situation, not one they have ever faced before.Thats not an excuse for their slowness, but it might explain why they didnt react quickly enough.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by the truth

theyre mere words, she is still in the house and will still make a fortune from being a homewrecker and sexually assaulting daley

A BB house mate looking to make cash - quick hold the press - oh wait they already have

[anne666]

Originally Posted by kefln

A BB house mate looking to make cash - quick hold the press - oh wait they already have

This is so funny. Daley was showing his erection, which wasn't that impressive long before this happened. Even waxed lyrical about which pants he should wear for when the little fella popped up YUK !!! I wonder if that is his small problem and the reason he is a misogynistic , violent, control freak LOL. A lot of male ego's being assaulted on here I think.

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by kefln

Of course, it should never have gotten that far. But it was a very odd situation, not one they have ever faced before.Thats not an excuse for their slowness, but it might explain why they didnt react quickly enough.

When Dennis spat in Mohamed's face in series 6, he was removed straight away. You would think that one contestant threatening another contestant and then putting their hands around the contestant's neck would make BB sit up and take notice. BB were wrong and negligent to let things escalate as they did.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by the truth

IF youd been in the same position as daley was the question? with another persn jumping into your bed against your wishes, on top of you, pillow over your face, depriving you off sleep , demanding physical contact and exposing your genitalia on national tv against your will..while your family watched in front of millions..how would you have felt if this happened to you?...please answer this question ?

Is this the same daley that lied about his partner and persued a girl on national tv, despite knowing that he had kids at home watching?

Is this the same daley that is an admitted serial love cheat?

Is this the same daley that was laughing when he threw a pillow right into hazels face, when she was lying in the bed? Which resulted in her getting out of the bed, and striking him 3 times with her pillow, while he can be clearly heard laughing his head off? The same daley who was still laughing when she landed on top of him and covered his face. The same daley that was laughing after hazel slapped his behind. The same daley that was still laughing when hazel took his sheet.

In fact his mood only changed when he stood up and realised he couldnt see his sheet. We then heard the whole "you dont want to make me angry" speach.

And when she pulled down down his pants, he started laughing again, the mood lightened for a moment. He started dancing on the spot asking if she wanted to play "that game".

I dont think the facts, moment by recorded moment, fit your version of events.

Does that answer your question?

[kefln]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

When Dennis spat in Mohamed's face in series 6, he was removed straight away. You would think that one contestant threatening another contestant and then putting their hands around the contestant's neck would make BB sit up and take notice. BB were wrong and negligent to let things escalate as they did.

You arent going to get an argument here. It shouldnt have gone that far.

I dont see where you are going with this.

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by kefln

You arent going to get an argument here. It shouldnt have gone that far.

I dont see where you are going with this.

I am pointing out that BB have acted quickly before to stop a situation escalating and it's not the only time. So I disagree with your point that this was entirely new ground. On the fact that BB were slow to act, we seem to agree.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

I am pointing out that BB have acted quickly before to stop a situation escalating and it's not the only time. So I disagree with your point that this was entirely new ground. On the fact that BB were slow to act, we seem to agree.

Having a man grab a woman by the throat and threat to "nut" her is fairly new ground. But its not the first time they've allowed things to escalate out of control. The famous "fight night" comes straight to mind.

Should they always act quickly? Of course. But the reality is that they do mess up.

[halfacrown]

[QUOTE=kefln;6183143]Having a man grab a woman by the throat and threat to "nut" her is fairly new ground.

All the more reason for BB to act more quickly than before, rather than more slowly. Hard to understand what caused them to 'mess up' and put Hazel at such risk.

[Lister of Smeg]

Hazel should have been ejected too .

[anne666]

[QUOTE=halfacrown;6183336]

Originally Posted by kefln

Having a man grab a woman by the throat and threat to "nut" her is fairly new ground.

All the more reason for BB to act more quickly than before, rather than more slowly. Hard to understand what caused them to 'mess up' and put Hazel at such risk.

Thanks for that I agree and have been trying to get that across, some are wise enough to see that, some aren't and stick to hackneyed argument.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by kefln

Is this the same daley that lied about his partner and persued a girl on national tv, dispite knowing that he had kids at home watching?

Is this the same daley that is an admitted serial love cheat?

Is this the same daley that was laughing when he threw a pillow right into hazels face, when she was lying in the bed? Which resulted in her getting out of the bed, and striking him 3 times with her pillow, while he can be clearly heard laughing his head off? The same daley who was still laughing when she landed on top of him and covered his face. The same daley that was laughing after hazel slapped his behind. The same daley that was still laughing when hazel took his sheet.

In fact his mood only changed when he stood up and realised he couldnt see his sheet. We then heard the whole "you dont want to make me angry" speach.

And when she pulled down down his pants, he started laughing again, the mood lightened for a moment. He started dancing on the spot asking if she wanted to play "that game".

I dont think the facts, moment by recorded moment, fit your version of events.

Does that answer your question?

YES !!!! Back of the net I would say.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by the truth

IF youd been in the same position as daley was the question? with another persn jumping into your bed against your wishes, on top of you, pillow over your face, depriving you off sleep , demanding physical contact and exposing your genitalia on national tv against your will..while your family watched in front of millions..how would you have felt if this happened to you?...please answer this question ?

If it was Hazel,I would feel f'king over the moon!I would do exactly as she wished!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Just came across this in my dvd collection.

Perfect example of what op is asking...."If a man pulled down a womans pants".

Frustrating that some people cant acknowledge facts when they are written down so heres a vid of a male housemate doing exactly what the op has questioned and stated 100% a male would be kicked out of the house for doing this.

Ray was not given a warning let alone kicked out (and rightly so) pc Britain gone mad.

Hazel however was warned which I don't think was even necessary.

Youtube video

[the truth]

Originally Posted by kefln

Having a man grab a woman by the throat and threat to "nut" her is fairly new ground. But its not the first time they've allowed things to escalate out of control. The famous "fight night" comes straight to mind.

Should they always act quickly? Of course. But the reality is that they do mess up.

I agree...BB should have intervened far earlier, maybe after she pulled his pants down......just as they should have should when denise was hitting Michael madsen in the face.....shame these double standards in favour of female housemates continue.....keep it fair and balanced and yodu have a better show

[daniel-lewis-1985]

TheTruth must be ignoring my posts either that or is totally in denial for saying BB have double standards after watching a clip which proves otherwise.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by the truth

what would be the consequences?

would BB call him immediately to the diary room?

clearly this is when daley went nuts....BB should have stepped in immediately at that moment to stop the situation getting so out of control

I notice denise welsh did this to the American twins, the twins went nuts about it, yet she got away with it...but if a man invaded a womans boundaries this way and pulled her pants down on live tv, well the reaction would be massive and hed be immediately pulled up , possibly evicted.

double standards. hazel invaded his boundaries big time and BB should have stepped in immediately.

It is double standards, but ones that are socially accepted. Men are viewed as the sexually dominant species. Take Loose Women, a group of women sitting around on national TV at midday talking about mens bodies etc. Flip that round and imagine a group of men discussing titties.

Wouldnt ever happen.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

It is double standards, but ones that are socially accepted. Men are viewed as the sexually dominant species. Take Loose Women, a group of women sitting around on national TV at midday talking about mens bodies etc. Flip that round and imagine a group of men discussing titties.

Wouldnt ever happen.

Yet another poster ignoring the facts.

See below video.

Youtube video

[Vicky.]

I think this thread has run its course now.