[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Videostar

I keep asking Sam supporters this and they either never answer the question or give sarcy answers.

I would love to hear genuine reason as to why he should win.

I have given genuine reasons below. People seem to fly past them. How convenient.

[KingOfTheMods]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

I didn't say he was nice though?

Inoffensive, whatever. The fact that you think he's a deserving winner cause he sits there with his thumb up his ass doing eff all baffles me.

[Calderyon]

I don´t want him to win. But if it comes down to it that he is the last hope to prevent Gina from winning, i have to hope he does.

It doesn´t mean that i support him, it means i do not want Gina to win.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I agree. Callum has isolated Sam. He's not close to anyone now.

According to Callum, Gina is the only other he is close to because she actually listens to what he says and repeats stuff for him if he struggles? Hopefully this is the case and we see both of them get closer and he brings out her nicer side and she brings out his livelier side.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Sam has conquered and is dealing with difficulty every single day, the the others and loads of this forum could not even dream of. He is a nice young lad who would put the money to good use.

So, it's a sympathy vote then? If he didn't have a disability, you wouldn't support him?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by KingOfTheMods

Inoffensive, whatever. The fact that you think he's a deserving winner cause he sits there with his thumb up his ass doing eff all baffles me.

I didn't say he's a deserving winner, I'm just saying that I much prefer him to some of the assholes who have won previous series so by default he'd be in the top half of winners for me. If it really baffles you that I'd rather have someone I'm indifferent to win than someone I dislike then continue to be baffled.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by HB123

So, it's a sympathy vote then? If he didn't have a disability, you wouldn't support him?

He is dealing with difficulties. Doesn't make an issue of it. Doesn't go out of his way to **** with people. I have no sympathy for him, he is in no need of sympathy. People need to stop using that phrase, because its condescending and quite frankly, bollocks.

[KingOfTheMods]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

I didn't say he's a deserving winner, I'm just saying that I much prefer him to some of the assholes who have won previous series so by default he'd be in the top half of winners for me. If it really baffles you that I'd rather have someone I'm indifferent to win than someone I dislike then continue to be baffled.

Different strokes I suppose. I'd rather have a controversial winner good or bad than someone who has quite literally brought nothing to the program, he's been an absolute waste of a hm.

[Macie Lightfoot]

idk it just seems counter intuitive for me to want someone to win who I absolutely did not enjoy viewing for 2-3 months, which qualifies at least half of the winners this show has had.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

He is dealing with difficulties. Doesn't make an issue of it. Doesn't go out of his way to **** with people. I have no sympathy for him, he is in no need of sympathy. People need to stop using that phrase, because its condescending and quite frankly, bollocks.

You keep pointing out his "difficulty", nobody else. They just respond to you.

So, he is deaf, but others are dealing with difficulties too, it is not a reason for ANY housemate to win.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Ben

You keep pointing out his "difficulty", nobody else. They just respond to you.

So, he is deaf, but others are dealing with difficulties too, it is not a reason for ANY housemate to win.

Yes I do. Because that is the very reason I have respect for him. What difficulties are others in there dealing with? Gina's shoes too tight? Hazel's eyeliner running?

[Headie]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Yes I do. Because that is the very reason I have respect for him. What difficulties are others in there dealing with? Gina's shoes too tight? Hazel's eyeliner running?

Well then surely Sam shouldn't be allowed to be a housemate if he gets supported just for having 'difficulties'. Same basis goes for Steve, Verne etc. It's like the Olympics and Paralympics, they seperate them for a reason because the able-bodied would have an advantage in most events. Well, this is just the same, since Sam gets an advantage just for being physically different to the other housemates.

[BBfan46]

It's a game show!

He's not contributed to the game. He barely speaks!

Even now, he has about 3 lines on the HL show and there's only 7 housemates left!

No doubt, he's a lovely guy but he's boring. Unfortunately, he will win

[YodaBB]

I want Gina to have the title & Sam to have the prizefund

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by HB123

Well then surely Sam shouldn't be allowed to be a housemate if he gets supported just for having 'difficulties'. Same basis goes for Steve, Verne etc. It's like the Olympics and Paralympics, they seperate them for a reason because the able-bodied would have an advantage in most events. Well, this is just the same, since Sam gets an advantage just for being physically different to the other housemates.

Going by that logic blacks and whites, gays and non gays should all have separate bathrooms, restaurants and travel on different buses.

It's not a 100m sprint, its a gameshow as pointed out. There is no reason to exclude anyone from that house based on any physical differences. It would probably be illegal to do so.

[Kyle]

I want Sam to win purely because I like him, that's all there is to it. There is no ulterior motive or sympathy voting I just like him.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Yes I do. Because that is the very reason I have respect for him. What difficulties are others in there dealing with? Gina's shoes too tight? Hazel's eyeliner running?

I'm sorry, do you know the housemates personally and what they have had to deal with in their lives? Thought not. But you don't like people saying "If he didn't have a disability, you wouldn't support him" but you have just openly admitted that is why you support him.

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Sam has conquered and is dealing with difficulty every single day, the the others and loads of this forum could not even dream of. He is a nice young lad who would put the money to good use.

Should Steve have won BB11?

Big Brother is a gameshow, not a charity. No one automatically deserves to be the winner just because they're facing any kind of difficulty, whether they're blind, deaf, have no legs, have ears like a dogs - nothing. The winner should be the person who has best played the game, who has provided entertainment and done enough within the house to justify the title and prize fund. If we vote the bores as the winner just because they're having a hard time then future series will be duller than watching paint dry because they'll come to realise that all they have to do to win is sit around all day and don't get involved in anything.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ben

You keep pointing out his "difficulty", nobody else. They just respond to you.

So, he is deaf, but others are dealing with difficulties too, it is not a reason for ANY housemate to win.

It's not a reason for certain people to take the piss either Ben

[Marc]

Top notch guy

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It's not a reason for certain people to take the piss either Ben

Such as?

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Ben

I'm sorry, do you know the housemates personally and what they have had to deal with in their lives? Thought not. But you don't like people saying "If he didn't have a disability, you wouldn't support him" but you have just openly admitted that is why you support him.

No I do not know any of them personally, but you would think some on here do.

None of them have an obvious disadvantage, Sam does, which he deals with amicably.

I don't like people 'if he didn't have a disability?' where did I say that? I don't like people saying it is nothing more than a sympathy vote, because its patronising.

I support him because I respect what he has to deal with and how he deals with it.

Next question...

[Kyle]

Cynical hermit is fully entitled to his reasons for liking Sam and I think you should respect them regardless of whether you agree or not.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

No I do not know any of them personally, but you would think some on here do.

None of them have an obvious disadvantage, Sam does, which he deals with amicably.

I don't like people 'if he didn't have a disability?' where did I say that? I don't like people saying it is nothing more than a sympathy vote, because its patronising.

I support him because I respect what he has to deal with and how he deals with it.

Next question...

I misread that earlier post (as that other part was in it too), I apologise.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by RichardG

Should Steve have won BB11?

Big Brother is a gameshow, not a charity. No one automatically deserves to be the winner just because they're facing any kind of difficulty, whether they're blind, deaf, have no legs, have ears like a dogs - nothing. The winner should be the person who has best played the game, who has provided entertainment and done enough within the house to justify the title and prize fund. If we vote the bores as the winner just because they're having a hard time then future series will be duller than watching paint dry because they'll come to realise that all they have to do to win is sit around all day and don't get involved in anything.

I have not said any of those things!

Jesus wept.

He has my respect for how and what he deals with.

None of the others have gained my respect

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