[Lex]

Originally Posted by Livia

Dexter doesn't need to make sleazy remarks. The fact that he's quite openly discussed paying for sex and using women as accessories... the fact that he calls himself "London's Biggest Sugar Daddy" (although he doesn't actually come from, or live in, London), the fact that he's a "dating coach" and thinks that he can pass on the skills to get women in to bed while his own approach to Hazel and Charlie would suggest he could do with a class himself... His whole persona is sleazy.

Sam probably shouldn't have said what he did. But he's naive, rather than a sleaze and for people to be acting all outraged at Sam makes me LMFAO.

Ok forget the Dexter rant...substitute his name for anyone else's that hasn't chosen the "edgy-persona gameplan"...let's say someone around Sam's age [24 ish] ...someone without the disability,...someone that, like Sam has been brought up in a normal family environment, and has travelled the world [he spent part of his life in America without his family don;t forget] a lad that claims to have had [apart from his hearing problem] a pretty normal life, with ...and yet you claim naivety for his comments? mmmmh...me smells double standards Livia!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Videostar

He was warned for that, so where was Sam's warnings for far worse comment aimed at female guests that were there for a task.?

His comment were never intentionally offensive, two slightly off colour spontaneous remark can't be held against him.
Lord you would think it had been as bad as threatened acts of actual physical violence or explanations of involvement in serious sexual assaults .....

[Indy]

Originally Posted by Videostar

My annoyance here is that Dexter hasn't said anything quite that bad and yet one tiny comment he makes and he gets slaughtered for it, same with any of the other HM's...Sam's crude remarks might not be the worst in history and doesn't make him a hate figure but it does show that he is no better than any of the others in the house.

My problem with Sam's remarks is not content as much as context. Just like people have different "voices" they use whether they're talking to their parent or their friends or their employer, there are different levels of acceptability in behavior. Sam seems to feel he has the right to speak to everyone in the same manner he'd speak in a locker room. Nobody has taught him otherwise, but instead of coddling and thinking "oh, isn't he silly," he should be corrected for that behavior, whether it's the women in the house telling him it's not ok, or BB calling him up for it.

I wonder how many of the people saying it's no big deal would feel the same if it was their mother or their daughter being chased around in the workplace by some strange man making crude comments to her or forcing her to kiss him.

[Issac]

If this idiot wasn't deaf he would of got a warning!

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Originally Posted by Indy

My problem with Sam's remarks is not content as much as context. Just like people have different "voices" they use whether they're talking to their parent or their friends or their employer, there are different levels of acceptability in behavior. Sam seems to feel he has the right to speak to everyone in the same manner he'd speak in a locker room. Nobody has taught him otherwise, but instead of coddling and thinking "oh, isn't he silly," he should be corrected for that behavior, whether it's the women in the house telling him it's not ok, or BB calling him up for it.

I wonder how many of the people saying it's no big deal would feel the same if it was their mother or their daughter being chased around in the workplace by some strange man making crude comments to her or forcing her to kiss him.

I remember in the real world Andy gray the sky commentator got sacked for his comments against women which were not to similar to what Sam has said in the Big Brother house...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Just levelling the playing field here, Sam has been painted out to be perfect, a saint, can do no wrong...I think it's fair that there are negative threads about him like there has been for EVERY OTHER HM.

BTW, I like the ladies and flirt, but have never used the rather disgusting word "gash" to a woman.

[billy123]

Well this backfired didnt it smeagol i think you just turned a few people into sam fans.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Well this backfired didnt it smeagol i think you just turned a few people into sam fans.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Hello Cherie was just wondering where you were (spooky)

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Im_Juz_ChiLLin

AWWWWWWWWWW bless you are helping too well done

[smeagol]

i didn't see his post as on ignore i have so many of them on ignore now lol

kaz bbots all same stuff everytime zzz

[DanaC]

I think a warning would be fair enough actually. It wasn't a terrible thing to say, and it was clearly meant in banter, but it's still out of order.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Hello Cherie was just wondering where you were (spooky)

Hey Kaz, how are things on the good Ship... I can sling you a dinghy if you want to get off at any point..

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by Videostar

And he's crude and not sweet and lovely like we only get to see on the edits.

And if Dexter had of said you and others on here would be jumping up and down over it, calling for him to be removed. lol

exactly, god forbid if it had been Dexter that said it!