[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Uvam Acerbam

I think that I've finally figured out what Dexter is doing while in the BBH. OK, here goes.

1. He went in willing to make a fool of himself and to be disliked by the HM's. All he had to do was pray that there was a bigger twat than him and he would be safe for a week, maybe two. Luckily for him there were. Axle, Jem and Wiffy were in there and he was safe.

2. He planned his "journey". Rich, addicted, lots of women, "billy no mates" and many more. He tells everyone that he's unloved and must make amends for his bad life choices. His back story has been carefully constructed by a PR firm. Push all the right buttons and the GBP will lap it up. Get emotional. Right out of the BGT playbook. "I just want to make my mum proud". I'm surprised that his dog didn't die just before the show.

3. The final move. Get the PR people in on the show. I didn't suss this whole thing until I saw BOTP with his "friend" Claudine on the panel. She's no friend, she's a PR slug. She starts off by saying that he had no game plan. Then she said that his game plan didn't work. Then she leaves everyone hanging with "I can't tell you the reasons he went in there". Then she says "he doesn't have friends", well WTF are you then? She then goes into how he wants to make his mum proud. This woman has been hired by Dexter before the show started to be his friend. He is playing everyone.

Having said that, if it works and he wins then more power to him. I just think that it's the end of BB if a group of people can alter the game to this extent from the outside. It's no longer the "social experiment" but a textbook case of how to win BB by manipulating the GBP and make loads of dosh doing it. It's been coming for some time but BB is just too happy to have the game influenced to raise the ratings, otherwise how did this PR hack get on to the show. No one else has F & F on to this extent.

Well, that's my 2 pence worth.

Good Post.........but tbh it stopped being a Social Experiment years ago...now its just a bit of light hearted entertainment where people are confined in a close space with strangers and are forced to try and be popular to stay in and win........other than that there are no rules or regulations and anything goes.........!!!!!

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Uvam Acerbam

I think that I've finally figured out what Dexter is doing while in the BBH. OK, here goes.

1. He went in willing to make a fool of himself and to be disliked by the HM's. All he had to do was pray that there was a bigger twat than him and he would be safe for a week, maybe two. Luckily for him there were. Axle, Jem and Wiffy were in there and he was safe.

2. He planned his "journey". Rich, addicted, lots of women, "billy no mates" and many more. He tells everyone that he's unloved and must make amends for his bad life choices. His back story has been carefully constructed by a PR firm. Push all the right buttons and the GBP will lap it up. Get emotional. Right out of the BGT playbook. "I just want to make my mum proud". I'm surprised that his dog didn't die just before the show.

3. The final move. Get the PR people in on the show. I didn't suss this whole thing until I saw BOTP with his "friend" Claudine on the panel. She's no friend, she's a PR slug. She starts off by saying that he had no game plan. Then she said that his game plan didn't work. Then she leaves everyone hanging with "I can't tell you the reasons he went in there". Then she says "he doesn't have friends", well WTF are you then? She then goes into how he wants to make his mum proud. This woman has been hired by Dexter before the show started to be his friend. He is playing everyone.

Having said that, if it works and he wins then more power to him. I just think that it's the end of BB if a group of people can alter the game to this extent from the outside. It's no longer the "social experiment" but a textbook case of how to win BB by manipulating the GBP and make loads of dosh doing it. It's been coming for some time but BB is just too happy to have the game influenced to raise the ratings, otherwise how did this PR hack get on to the show. No one else has F & F on to this extent.

Well, that's my 2 pence worth.

Great post.

His game has been pretty see through since early on, once you wade through all the bullsh*t he spouts, all that is left is a desperate devious little wannabe.

[Jemal]

Great OP.

[Jack_]

Even if this is true and you have 'worked him out'...it's erm...a gameshow? And if he is playing a game like this that's been preplanned to this extent then um...it's bloody fantastic?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

100% true.

Also the friend who said he had no friends and no game plan then also went onto say hes about to go into his 3rd stage of his game plan?

What the ****?

Its as plain as day this is all an act and if people are buying into it then they are very naďve.

[Vanessa]

Dexter is the new Robert De Niro!

[Withano]

If I went on Big Brother, I'd probably have a game plan to have some sort of "journey". He knows what hes doing and hes doing it well

[Vanessa]

They all have a gameplan. It's no a bad thing these days.

[HBB1508]

It's a gameshow to win a lot of money - they all have gameplans and the winner should be the one with the most devious and entertaining plan without being overly nasty and that's Dexter imo.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They all have a gameplan. It's no a bad thing these days.

I think it detracts from them as people though. It shows a ruthlessness and a machiavellian side.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by barbel13

dexter to win if there is a God.

If there is a God I seriously doubt he'd give any time or thought to who wins BB14.

[Issac]

True and having sensory faculty comparable to Botts pseudo experts.

[Uvam Acerbam]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Even if this is true and you have 'worked him out'...it's erm...a gameshow? And if he is playing a game like this that's been preplanned to this extent then um...it's bloody fantastic?

If you read the OP, I mentioned that "Having said that, if it works and he wins then more power to him."

I just don't have to like it or respect him for it.

[fingers]

You're on a hiding to nothing trying to convince some of this lot!

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Dexter is the new Robert De Niro!

More like. The father in Steptoe and son...

[Winkie Expand]

It's almost like these things were planted in the lead up to the show.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Winkie Expand

It's almost like these things were planted in the lead up to the show.

They were, it started last December.

[mr rochester]

The thing I like about the OP is that plenty of information to back up the theories is given for us to check out. For instance I had not seen Dexter's web-site despite the fact it has been posted on our forum before.

I did note though that a book called "The Pretender" is coming out - so this appearance might well help the launch...Of course he will not need a PR Company since he will be his own PR (duh!). I had not realised that.

It was interesting to see on his web-site a photo of the girl who appeared as his friend in the studio once.

So this really is a master plan. Top marks to him...He doesn't need to win now - he's home and dry on the basis of his journey.

Sophie and the Twins now look like complete rank amateurs by comparison. Even if you hate Dexter, this year might have been very dull without him. I knew he was a friend of Rylan's but not much more than that. I have not particularly felt any empathy towards him so far - but I can watch now with a bit more understanding.

I get a very strong sense that he will not be bothering with any of the other housemates when his stint is over - except possibly Hazel. Knowing him he will offer to manage both Daley and Hazels's careers and/or possibly some of the others on a percentage basis. He can't fail financially if this is the case..

[Cherie]

[QUOTE=daniel-lewis-1985;6254495]100% true.

Also the friend who said he had no friends and no game plan then also went onto say hes about to go into his 3rd stage of his game plan?

What the ****?

Its as plain as day this is all an act and if people are buying into it then they are very naďve.[/QUOTE]

I can't speak for all his fans, but most people know he is putting on an act, but we are enjoying the show, can't see too much wrong with that.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by mr rochester

The thing I like about the OP is that plenty of information to back up the theories is given for us to check out. For instance I had not seen Dexter's web-site despite the fact it has been posted on our forum before.

I did note though that a book called "The Pretender" is coming out - so this appearance might well help the launch...Of course he will not need a PR Company since he will be his own PR (duh!). I had not realised that.

It was interesting to see on his web-site a photo of the girl who appeared as his friend in the studio once.

So this really is a master plan. Top marks to him...He doesn't need to win now - he's home and dry on the basis of his journey.

Sophie and the Twins now look like complete rank amateurs by comparison. Even if you hate Dexter, this year might have been very dull without him. I knew he was a friend of Rylan's but not much more than that. I have not particularly felt any empathy towards him so far - but I can watch now with a bit more understanding.

I get a very strong sense that he will not be bothering with any of the other housemates whn his stint is over - except possibly Hazel. Knowing him he will offer to manage both Daley and Hazels's careers and/or possibly some of the others on a percentage basis. He can't fail financially if this is the case..

Couple of points, his website is part of his scam, His main income is from photographing celebs and wannabe celebs like Sallie, He is a paparazzo he saw and photographed Rylan on a drunken night out and had another paparazzo photograph him with Rylan.

The ISBN No. on the book does not exist.

His PR (Media) company Earthhorse PR ltd was registered for his entry to BB date of registration 2nd April 2013, Capital Ł1, registered in Lancashire but purports to be in London with a Mobile Telephone Number to contact it.
Dexter Koh (real or birth name Dexter Koh Siong Kiat) was born in 1985 (this is the only true part of his Biography)

[Winkie Expand]

Looks like a plant but, regardless, the book is called The Pretender. Let that one absorb...

My issue isn't if so much if he went in there as an actor. It's with the hypocrisy of viewers who vehemently defend him while tearing down other housemates, often citing them as not being real or for being deceptive. I think this forum is now more of a social experiment than the show itself.

[sampvt]

I cant for the life of me understand why some people want him to win. Its like saying we need to allow scam artists to con us all then pay them for it. What kind of world are we promoting when conmen are revered as hero's. HE IS A LITTLE FAME HUNGRY WANNABEE and that my fellow posters is not, or should not, be the type of people we should be supporting, regardless of how entertaining he is supposed to be.

[Winkie Expand]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I cant for the life of me understand why some people want him to win. Its like saying we need to allow scam artists to con us all then pay them for it. What kind of world are we promoting when conmen are revered as hero's. HE IS A LITTLE FAME HUNGRY WANNABEE and that my fellow posters is not, or should not, be the type of people we should be supporting, regardless of how entertaining he is supposed to be.

Yes! Exactly how I feel!

[CaudleHalbard]

I guess I feel he's someone I'd find it easy to get along with in the outside world.

Apart from the manufactured back story for BB (just as with Gina and Callum) where is the evidence that he is a scammer in real life?

[Sandz38]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I cant for the life of me understand why some people want him to win. Its like saying we need to allow scam artists to con us all then pay them for it. What kind of world are we promoting when conmen are revered as hero's. HE IS A LITTLE FAME HUNGRY WANNABEE and that my fellow posters is not, or should not, be the type of people we should be supporting, regardless of how entertaining he is supposed to be.

That's only cause you've got a hard on for Sam