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Originally Posted by Livia

Oh yeah, the Americans, they're great peace-brokers, aren't they.

There are 22 Arab countries totalling around 800 times the size of Israel, but there is only one Jewish state. Aside from the Jews believing they have a divine right to be in Israel, the fact is that Israel was a state two thousand years before Islam was established and nowhere in the Qu'ran does it mention Jerusalem, Israel or whether Mohammed ever even visited there.

As for the UN, they are an expensive, toothless institution who had nothing to say during the Jordanian occupation when 58 synagogues were destroyed, nor when they desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives, nor when Jordan enforced apartheid laws preventing Jews from accessing sacred sites and places of worship.

I'm not going to pretend that I think Israel always acts appropriately but when Israel is insulted and attacked by people who really don't know the whole story, just bits a pieces they've picked up, it's annoying. They try to paint Palestine as some kind of opressed, noble minority. In actual fact Israel is targeted by Palestinian rockets on a daily basis. If Israeli anti-missile technology wasn’t so good the news might read very differently. Even school teachers are armed in Israel, to protect the children they teach from terrorist attack. There's a lot of talking needs to be done so that both sides can live in peace, but unless people see the whole picture, that's never going to happen.

theyre current actions and their regime is mindless , the whole eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. its a mindless pathetic vicious back and forth game of revenge. the timing of these endless building works is based purely on spite and revenge. hence it continues the whole sorry cycle of spite and revenge.
their actions after the UN vote was just self defeating.
as for the state itself Im all for a 2 state solution. I do not believe the Israelis or jews had any right whatsoever to set up this country in the 1940s though. it was always doomed to total failure. did they have the deeds or what? the whole thing is preposterous. but now they Israel exists, the Israelis still fail completely to understand the word compromise. its a disaster and always will be unless they stop the building end compromise and negotiate. anyone who fails to do that hates his own people.