[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

People FUMING at the sexist gender stereotypes she's smashing left, right and centre AMEZZIN

You shag about and get battered and don't give a ****** about what anyone thinks gurl <33333

Here's a fact for you jack.. Plenty of women enjoy a good shag and going out and getting ****faced... However most don't feel the need to shout their mouths off about it for a bit of attention.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Here's a fact for you jack.. Plenty of women enjoy a good shag and going out and getting ****faced... However most don't feel the need to shout their mouths off about it for a bit of attention.

Does she have to be just like most people? I'd rather Charlotte to people who do everything she does and then pretend they're any better, frankly.

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by Jack_

People FUMING at the sexist gender stereotypes she's smashing left, right and centre AMEZZIN

What do you mean "sexist gender stereotypes" ?
Serious question cos I don't get it.

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

I'd rather Charlotte to people who do everything she does and then pretend they're any better, frankly.

Good luck in finding them !

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by the_answers

What do you mean "sexist gender stereotypes" ?
Serious question cos I don't get it.


Good luck in finding them !

Found a few right here...

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Here's a fact for you jack.. Plenty of women enjoy a good shag and going out and getting ****faced... However most don't feel the need to shout their mouths off about it for a bit of attention.

But of course they're not on TV doing it for money are they ?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

So, unless you act like Charlotte you're a stereotype?

She's not breaking any stereotypes for chavvy youngsters.

Never said that at all, but there are stereotypes that exist where women aren't supposed to be sexually promiscuous or else they're a 'slut' (but it's perfectly acceptable for men to be and they're 'suchaladmate' if they do), even worse they get called this by women themselves, and if a woman gets trollied she's not very 'ladylike' (LOL that's a stereotype in itself). I could go on but basically the fact she destroys these stereotypes and doesn't give a ****** is good enough for me

Not all women have to act like Charlotte, it's a personal preference and it doesn't matter either way. The problem is when people are judged for acting the way Charlotte does (especially when men are celebrated for the same behaviour) and berated for doing so, when really...you know...live and let live and all that.

Also 'chav' is a (damaging and mightily overinclusive might I add) stereotype just so you know.

Originally Posted by Lee.

Here's a fact for you jack.. Plenty of women enjoy a good shag and going out and getting ****faced... However most don't feel the need to shout their mouths off about it for a bit of attention.

1) She's paid to run her mouth about it on a scripted reality TV show and play a character, she will have felt the need to live up to parts of that 'character' on this show too. It's exaggerated

2) Openness shouldn't always be confused with attention seeking, in fact it should be embraced sometimes

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Never said that at all, but there are stereotypes that exist where women aren't supposed to be sexually promiscuous or else they're a 'slut' (but it's perfectly acceptable for men to be and they're 'suchaladmate' if they do), even worse they get called this by women themselves, and if a woman gets trollied she's not very 'ladylike' (LOL that's a stereotype in itself). I could go on but basically the fact she destroys these stereotypes and doesn't give a ****** is good enough for me

Not all women have to act like Charlotte, it's a personal preference and it doesn't matter either way. The problem is when people are judged for acting the way Charlotte does (especially when men are celebrated for the same behaviour) and berated for doing so, when really...you know...live and let live and all that.

Also 'chav' is a (damaging and mightily overinclusive might I add) stereotype just so you know.



1) She's paid to run her mouth about it on a scripted reality TV show and play a character, she will have felt the need to live up to parts of that 'character' on this show too. It's exaggerated

2) Openness shouldn't always be confused with attention seeking, in fact it should be embraced sometimes

1) which is one of the reasons she should not have won.. Her whole persona is just one big attention seeking ploy.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Lee.

1) which is one of the reasons she should not have won.. Her whole persona is just one big attention seeking ploy.

Well it is a gameshow, if she used it to win (which I doubt) then that in itself makes her a worthy winner

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by Lee.

1) which is one of the reasons she should not have won.. Her whole persona is just one big attention seeking ploy.

Agree 100%! But obviously we're out of synch with the majority who find it entertaining eg.Towie,Geordie Shore,etc.!?!

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Seanbon

Agree 100%! But obviously we're out of synch with the majority who find it entertaining eg.Towie,Geordie Shore,etc.!?!

Don't watch either, hate them kind of shows, didn't think Charlotte was the most entertaining housemate in there either

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Don't watch either, hate them kind of shows, didn't think Charlotte was the most entertaining housemate in there either

Was referring to her "fanbase"!!

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Never said that at all, but there are stereotypes that exist where women aren't supposed to be sexually promiscuous or else they're a 'slut' (but it's perfectly acceptable for men to be and they're 'suchaladmate' if they do), even worse they get called this by women themselves, and if a woman gets trollied she's not very 'ladylike' (LOL that's a stereotype in itself). I could go on but basically the fact she destroys these stereotypes and doesn't give a ****** is good enough for me

See your point.
But don't you find it a bit odd that BB seem to frown upon supposed "flirting" done by certain women on the show (and thanked for their bodies in a sterotypical type of way) yet Charlotte ends up the winner and a "lovely person" ?

Originally Posted by Jack_

The problem is when people are judged for acting the way Charlotte does (especially when men are celebrated for the same behaviour) and berated for doing so, when really...you know...live and let live and all that.

You mean like how Courtney gets judged for a bit of innocent finger play ?
Or Hazel's non-sexual encounter ?

Aren't you just a bit suprised BB have nothing to say about Charlottes chosen lifestyle ?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by the_answers

See your point.
But don't you find it a bit odd that BB seem to frown upon supposed "flirting" done by certain women on the show (and thanked for their bodies in a sterotypical type of way) yet Charlotte ends up the winner and a "lovely person" ?


You mean like how Courtney gets judged for a bit of innocent finger play ?
Or Hazel's non-sexual encounter ?

Aren't you just a bit suprised BB have nothing to say about Chalottes chosen lifestyle ?

I can't disagree with any of that, there's definitely points to be raised from what you've just said. That doesn't negate the bile spouted at Charlotte though

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I can't disagree with any of that, there's definitely points to be raised from what you've just said. That doesn't negate the bile spouted at Charlotte though

Well I see your point to some extent.
If there's any blame to be had (which we're debating), I certainly think it's not all at Charlotte's door.
If the show didn't want her on she wouldn't have gone on. (and they knew what she was like)

As far as I can gather Geordie Shore didn't arise from Charlotte, she was selected to be part of it ?
So why do people who blame Charlotte not blame the TV program too ?
Cos she's an easier target...
If it wasn't her I guess it would be someone else.

Think you're wrong to make out she's a rebel or on some kind of feminist mission though - she offered a half hearted apology tonight.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Also 'chav' is a (damaging and mightily overinclusive might I add) stereotype just so you know.

Yes, it is a stereotype. One she hasn't proven wrong.