[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

For me I think he,Ed Miliband is at last hitting the right notes now, it will take great courage to stand up to the big 6 energy companies but I want him to do that.
They really nned a massive shake up and to be forced to consider their customers at all, since they show little respect to them now.
The weaknesses of this pathetic Govt. as to taking any action as to the energy companies is a part of why energy costs are allowed to continue to rise and take more and more of peoples incomes even when they are even using less!!
If this Govt showed the same force at getting at the greedy energy suppliers as it has against the weakest,poorest and most vulnerable in the UK then all would be a lot better as to the costs of energy probably.

As for voting for those aged 16, as was said by DanaC if they can marry, have children, begin building a home with a partner, have to pay bills, work and also maybe serve the Country in the armed forces, then absolutely why deny them the right to be able to vote in democratic elections in the UK.
During election time, usually, schools take part in a mock general election across the Country too.

It is the figure of 16 being reached that makes all else legal,it may well be at 15 many are able to well and truly act for themselves but the law says until they are 16 they cannot that is the difference there in my opinion.

Even on here though, when I first joined,there was one person then only 14 who in the main talked loads of sense as to politics.
He was well up on the workings of Govt and I took a lot of notice of what he had to say as I did lot's of much older members too.
Many young people I come across, talk a lot of sense and see things a lot more clearer than some others who are more politically active.

Also okay, maybe only around 40% of the 16 year olds may bother to vote, that however is not that far behind the voting figures generally for the so called more politically active older voters of the UK.

The point is when should someone have the vote.
For me that is when they, in law, are seen as able to make their own decisions and stand on their own 2 feet or should be able to.
That is set at 16 years of age and voting should not be denied to them,even if they choose not to use it.
I have a feeling however we may all get quite a surprise how many may in fact end up doing so.

I have nothing at all against what he plans to do Joey,but I have grave concerns as to why he's rolling them out now and all in quick succession,it smacks of desperation to me,they really need to THINK things through before saying such things,I don't care who runs this country as long as they at least TRY and get us out of the red and back on track,unfortunately I really don't think Milliband is the man to do it.