[lostalex]

US Mail is still running even through the US government is shut down.... why? because the US Mail is not reliant on the government.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by lostalex

US Mail is still running even through the US government is shut down.... why? because the US Mail is not reliant on the government.

Hows your healthcare going?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Hows your healthcare going?

swimmingly. i'm not sick, what more could i ask for?

maybe you should ask some of those British families who have to go online and beg for money so they can come over to America and get treatments and operations that aren't provided by the NHS. ask them how their healthcare is going.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by lostalex

swimmingly. i'm not sick, what more could i ask for?

maybe you should ask some of those British families who have to go online and beg for money so they can come over to America and get treatments and operations that aren't provided by the NHS. ask them how their healthcare is going.

Yea that doesnt happen.

Whilst it is indisputable that the Americans have in some areas developed experimental treatments that arent available on the NHS, they all can be obtained privately in this country.

Nice to have the option of free healthcare though huh? Maybe one day when you call an ambulance in America they'll check your heart rate before they check your credit card.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Yea that doesnt happen.

Whilst it is indisputable that the Americans have in some areas developed experimental treatments that arent available on the NHS, they all can be obtained privately in this country.

Nice to have the option of free healthcare though huh? Maybe one day when you call an ambulance in America they'll check your heart rate before they check your credit card.

All Americans have healthcare, it is illegal in the US for anyone to be turned away from the emergency room for not having insurance. but also like Britain, not everyone as access to all kinds of treatment.

Also EMT's do check your heart rate right away, for everyone, no matter what insurance, or lack of you have. so again you are lying.

You obviously know nothing about American healthcare. Keep listening to the hyperbole, it's much more fun than the truth i guess. You don't need to actually think for yourself or reach your own conclusions, you can join a bandwagon. how convenient for you.

I do envy ignorant people, it must be easy to not have to think for yourself.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Yea that doesnt happen.

Whilst it is indisputable that the Americans have in some areas developed experimental treatments that arent available on the NHS, they all can be obtained privately in this country.

you are just lying now. i have seen plenty of docummentaries about British people having to come to America for treatment, and if you don't know about this, then it's just your own ignorance. America has the best healthcare in the world, if you can afford it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by lostalex

you are just lying now. i have seen plenty of docummentaries about British people having to come to America for treatment, and if you don't know about this, then it's just your own ignorance. America has the best healthcare in the world, if you can afford it.

To be fair - although this is true - it's almost always for "experimental" treatment programs that are not yet fully proven, and it's more to do with the fact that high coverage US health insurance will often cover these treatments. private British healthcare plans probably WOULD cover experimental treatments, were they available in the UK, but it's simply not cost effective for the companies running these trials to do so in a country that doesn't have high private insurance levels to pay for it. generally these treatments do (eventually) make their way into standard healthcare once they have been fully proven.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair - although this is true - it's almost always for "experimental" treatment programs that are not yet fully proven, and it's more to do with the fact that high coverage US health insurance will often cover these treatments. private British healthcare plans probably WOULD cover experimental treatments, were they available in the UK, but it's simply not cost effective for the companies running these trials to do so in a country that doesn't have high private insurance levels to pay for it. generally these treatments do (eventually) make their way into standard healthcare once they have been fully proven.

exactly, so if it wasn't for Americas system, how many of these treatments would never be discovered? It's easy to criticize America's healthcare system, but the truth is that the whole world benefits from it.