[Kizzy]

Q. what other possibly lethal gas could be released by fracking?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

What the bloody hell is fracking?

Not completely sure of the ins and outs of it lol, but it's like drilling deep into the earth to get gas from shale rock, been used a lot in America which has got them cheaper prices but the environmentalists are dead against it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14432401

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

But that's the reason prices have been on a steady increase over the last few years, because we import so much now we're a lot more exposed to global markets, doesn't help that there's loads of green taxes on energy bills these days either

This is why we should encourage fracking imo

The green taxes are not the issue here, stick to the point... Are you a politician?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

What the bloody hell is fracking?

drilling in the seas around Britain for gas.

oops not in the sea..

[Drew.]

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Not completely sure of the ins and outs of it lol, but it's like drilling deep into the earth to get gas from shale rock, been used a lot in America which has got them cheaper prices but the environmentalists are dead against it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14432401

If you don't know what it is or the implications of it why are you saying you welcome it?
Best to educate yourself on things before you decide to champion them.
It's not just environmentalists that oppose it but geologists too.

[Cherie]

Can anybody tell me did electricity prices ever fall after they put up all those wind turbines in various locations?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Drew.

.....what a great snow pic/gif....

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If you don't know what it is or the implications of it why are you saying you welcome it?
Best to educate yourself on things before you decide to champion them.
It's not just environmentalists that oppose it but geologists too.

No need to be patronising, we can't all be as all round enlightened as you

I mean I don't know the specifics of the actual method, I do know that it has been very successful in the US, that it would make energy bills cheaper, and that if done properly it doesn't necessarily cause massive harm to the environment. Plus environmentalists invariably exaggerate the dangers of things like this

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The green taxes are not the issue here, stick to the point... Are you a politician?

Well they are an issue if they add to energy bills

[lostalex]

I hate people that complain about snow, i would give anything to have snow here in California.

When i have fond memories of my childhood, almost all of them involve snow.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

No need to be patronising, we can't all be as all round enlightened as you

I mean I don't know the specifics of the actual method, I do know that it has been very successful in the US, that it would make energy bills cheaper, and that if done properly it doesn't necessarily cause massive harm to the environment. Plus environmentalists invariably exaggerate the dangers of things like this

Ok sorry, it is daft to say you want something and not know what it is or the implications.
We are around 850 miles from one end to the other, the proposed places for testing is Leeds... forgive me for not sharing your enthusiasm.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Can anybody tell me did electricity prices ever fall after they put up all those wind turbines in various locations?

I don't think that was the intention, they are just an alternative to coal and nuclear as a means of generating electricity as far as I know as they are cleaner and greener.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Ok sorry, it is daft to say you want something and not know what it is or the implications.
We are around 850 miles from one end to the other, the proposed places for testing is Leeds... forgive me for not sharing your enthusiasm.

I didn't say I didn't know what it is or the implications of it, I said I wasn't really clued up on the specifics of the method, like if I hadn't read that article I couldn't tell you off the top of my head that "a high-pressure water mixture is directed at the rock to release the gas inside. Water, sand and chemicals are injected into the rock at high pressure which allows the gas to flow out to the head of the well. The process is carried out vertically or, more commonly, by drilling horizontally to the rock layer"

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't think that was the intention, they are just an alternative to coal and nuclear as a means of generating electricity as far as I know as they are cleaner and greener.

Wouldn't it be nice if they passed on even a small percentage, as it is a natural resource that is powering them, and I presume the tax payer paid to build them, just a thought.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well they are an issue if they add to energy bills

If you want to deviate the point away from the energy companies ethical responsibilities yes...
I understand this may be under debate now my guess is it could be removed.
At what cost I don't know.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Wouldn't it be nice if they passed on even a small percentage, as it is a natural resource that is powering them, and I presume the tax payer paid to build them, just a thought.

But it would be impossible to measure how much energy they save each household, the benefit is not having to rely so heavily on fossil fuel and aid in decarbonisation targets.
It may not benefit us at all initially, it's an investment in the future.
Less pollutants and as we have little coal of our own (spit) less importation costs.

[Glenn.]

Why has this gone completely off topic? The topics about snow not fuel prices and fracking

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Drew.

This is more like it

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn

Why has this gone completely off topic? The topics about snow not fuel prices and fracking

Hardly.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Glenn

Why has this gone completely off topic? The topics about snow not fuel prices and fracking

It's all relative. Post some pictures of snow if you want glenn cheer us up?

[Glenn.]

My thinking is if you want to talk about fuel prices and fracking, make a thread and you can go to town on the subject.

[MTVN]

Meh I'd say that energy prices are pretty relevant to a thread about us apparently having the "worst winter ever"

[Vicky.]

Meanwhile, the government find 900m from nowhere (remember, we are apparently skint)..to NOT pay volunteers to talk to the vulnerable about how to change suppliers

Absolutely crazy.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/436...er-fuel-deaths

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Can't wait