[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ben

Tbh, Alex is right. There really isn't a lot to go on. There are no actual witnesses or hard evidence to the abduction itself.

That's not the point, the links provided are still factual and not as suggested opinion or heresay.

[Marsh.]

Bit unfair to caption a split second photograph.

Like when people are snapped half blinking and made to look like they're blind drunk.

[Marsh.]

That has no relevance to the photograph whether she has children.

It's a split second photograph with no context.

[Kizzy]

I think the point was would you or I be capable of this 14 days after the abduction of our children, I honestly don't think I would.
That's how I see it anyway.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I think the point was would you or I be capable of this 14 days after the abduction of our children, I honestly don't think I would.
That's how I see it anyway.

Capable of what? Walking?

[Vicky.]

Yeah, hanging everything on a photo is a bit daft. Yes its been reported that they were unusually upbeat very very soon after she disappeared, BUT some people cope differently.

You cannot expect anyone to never smile again, no matter what horrible thing they have had thrown at them.

[Kizzy]

Looking so relaxed and happy, that's the vibe I get from the pic anyway.
Everyones interpretation will differ though won't it?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Looking so relaxed and happy, that's the vibe I get from the pic anyway.
Everyones interpretation will differ though won't it?

Somebody could be shouting good wishes to them, they may be mid conversation, Kate could be squinting at the sun, it's just a photograph taken in a split second.

[Ammi]

..wasn't that a big part of the speculations in the first place and also what the Portugese didn't like, that they didn't 'look' upset enough, so that would assume then that they possibly knew more about her disappearance....I always thought it seemed bizarre that there must be some kind of human template of how parents should 'look' in that situation....

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..wasn't that a big part of the speculations in the first place and also what the Portugese didn't like, that they didn't 'look' upset enough, so that would assume then that they possibly knew more about her disappearance....I always thought it seemed bizarre that there must be some kind of human template of how parents should 'look' in that situation....

Yes, and I'd find it even more odd if they looked this "normal" after having something to do with their daughters death, then managing to conceal a dead body so well that it's never been found.

[Marsh.]

Yeah, but all that from a split second photo? Not fair to judge.

Like making someone look bladdered when you catch them half blinking.

If your argument is that they are guilty, and you think what you've provided are cold hard facts (even though they don't really stack up), then pictures like this just prove that deep down you know that you don't have the facts.

If I post a pic of them crying taken a couple of days after the "abduction", then that must prove their innocence by this logic.

[Kizzy]

I have said it's down to personal interpretation, and that it was only my view... I appreciate it's not widely accepted.
The facts that don't 'stack up' confuse me, as said many times links provided are not meant to 'prove' anything... They're just information on the situation as it was given at the time by those directly involved.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I have said it's down to personal interpretation, and that it was only my view... I appreciate it's not widely accepted.
The facts that don't 'stack up' confuse me, as said many times links provided are not meant to 'prove' anything... They're just information on the situation as it was given at the time by those directly involved.

Same for me Kizzy,I am not saying they have done anything wrong BUT I cannot dismiss a lot of things that are there in black and white and even some shades of grey,I posted the pic simply because it is strange to me that someone who had lost a child could even raise the strength to walkabout,plus it is not the only picture like this on the net.there are quite a lot!!!,I just find that reaction weird,I am not asking anyone else to feel the same,we all have our opinions and mine is total confusion and this reaction to ME is totally alien.

[chuff me dizzy]

If only people would come off of playing silly quizzes and take a day or 2 to read the police files ,witness statement as thousands of people have, they would see the larger picture, but some folk are more then happy to plod on believe the red tops and not giving a flying one for an innocent child ,as long they are ok ,sod the rest, gladly thats not my attitude or thousands of others, since Crimewatch aired 7 days ago,one group alone that I am in has had 11,000 new members who HAVE read files etc ,and are now also fighting for justice for Maddie

[chuff me dizzy]

For the first time in over 6 years I think the press is finally waking up to what happened, this is from the Mirror, read all the comments and see how many "likes" they got ,and the rare thing is usually within half an hour of comments being allowed they are all removed and comments not allowed ,it give me hope that finally someone is opening their eyes and letting talk about the police side of the case too, hoping this is the breakthrough we have waited for http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/vile-tr...mccann-2472668

And when articles about 9/11 appear, it's the "truthers" that bombard the comments sections as well.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

For the first time in over 6 years I think the press is finally waking up to what happened, this is from the Mirror, read all the comments and see how many "likes" they got ,and the rare thing is usually within half an hour of comments being allowed they are all removed and comments not allowed ,it give me hope that finally someone is opening their eyes and letting talk about the police side of the case too, hoping this is the breakthrough we have waited for http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/vile-tr...mccann-2472668

you don't know jack, the same as everyone else,
if there was enough proof to prove what happened it would of been out by now, even if it was for or against the mccanns

there is no cover up, just not enough hard evidence.

let the professionals do their jobs, not the bloody internet police putting two and two together coming up with five.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

you don't know jack, the same as everyone else,
if there was enough proof to prove what happened it would of been out by now, even if it was for or against the mccanns

there is no cover up, just not enough hard evidence.

let the professionals do their jobs, not the bloody internet police putting two and two together coming up with five.

professionals? who david beckham? isn't that where the mccans went , then the Pope? The police have asked for public input, now theyre getting it, so whats the problem

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

you don't know jack, the same as everyone else,
if there was enough proof to prove what happened it would of been out by now, even if it was for or against the mccanns

there is no cover up, just not enough hard evidence.

let the professionals do their jobs, not the bloody internet police putting two and two together coming up with five.

How many of the police statements have you read? how many files have you looked at ?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

but some folk are more then happy to plod on believe the red tops and not giving a flying one for an innocent child

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

and are now also fighting for justice for Maddie

The irony of you accusing people of believing the red tops whilst dedicating years of your time to a case that centres around just one missing child that has become so well known and documented because of the tabloids is almost too good to be true

Originally Posted by the truth

how can we justify spending millions on them and not on other missing children?

It's called 'Missing White Girl Syndrome'. You compare this case to the Sharon Matthews' one and just look at how the media treated the family (before they discovered Karen was responsible), with Maddie it was 'this poor family, how could it happen to the child of two Doctors, this doesn't happen to people like us' whilst with Sharon it was 'well have you seen the area she was living in I'm not surprised' and bringing her background and family life into disrepute almost immediately after it happened. Didn't happen so quickly with the McCann's other than condemning them for leaving her alone

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The irony of you accusing people of believing the red tops whilst dedicating years of your time to a case that centres around just one missing child that has become so well known and documented because of the tabloids is almost too good to be true



It's called 'Missing White Girl Syndrome'. You compare this case to the Sharon Matthews' one and just look at how the media treated the family (before they discovered Karen was responsible), with Maddie it was 'this poor family, how could it happen to the child of two Doctors, this doesn't happen to people like us' whilst with Sharon it was 'well have you seen the area she was living in I'm not surprised' and bringing her background and family life into disrepute almost immediately after it happened. Didn't happen so quickly with the McCann's other than condemning them for leaving her alone

Shannon Matthews was a missing white girl also

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Shannon Matthews was a missing white girl also

Yeah I totally get what Jack was meaning though, both girls were from completely different backgrounds.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

If only people would come off of playing silly quizzes and take a day or 2 to read the police files ,witness statement as thousands of people have, they would see the larger picture, but some folk are more then happy to plod on believe the red tops and not giving a flying one for an innocent child ,as long they are ok ,sod the rest, gladly thats not my attitude or thousands of others, since Crimewatch aired 7 days ago,one group alone that I am in has had 11,000 new members who HAVE read files etc ,and are now also fighting for justice for Maddie

Finally, in a roundabout way you have answered my question as to the purpose of the internet group. To my mind if the group really wanted justice for Maddie they would keep an open mind as to all the possibilities not hinder the search by smearing the McCanns. It seems to me some of these groups are baying for blood and are focussing solely on the McCanns as suspects rather than looking at the bigger picture. People who claim they are going to ring up the police with duff information and people who have done it have no interest at all in Justice for Maddie imo.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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Finally, in a roundabout way you have answered my question as to the purpose of the internet group. To my mind if the group really wanted justice for Maddie they would keep an open mind as to all the possibilities not hinder the search by smearing the McCanns. It seems to me some of these groups are baying for blood and are focussing solely on the McCanns as suspects rather than looking at the bigger picture. People who claim they are going to ring up the police with duff information and people who have done it have no interest at all in Justice for Maddie imo.

I will ask you the same question I asked Jesus ,how many of these groups are you a member of ,or are you just making it up as you go along and talking blind ?