[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

But you could say the same for humans tbf, we used to hunt for food at one point in time as well

And now we torture, trap, shoot, gas, poison... we stuff tubes into geese and force-feed them so that rich people can eat their livers, we cut the fins off sharks for soup and throw them back into the sea still alive, we club, poison and gas animals and skin them, sometimes still alive, so some rich tart can wear a fur coat, we chase stags on horseback until they're so exhausted they collapse and we watch while they live on for minutes while dogs tear them apart. It's a little more serious than tossing a mouse around for an hour.

I've not even started on the napalm and mustard gas yet... and the gassing of six million people because another group of people didn't like them.