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Originally Posted by jet

I disagree. What you are talking about is young people interacting with other young people. When young people interact with their elders they should curb their behaviour accordingly. If Lionel hadn't been in the group tonight, and say, Lee had been in his place it wouldn't have been so bad. Crude, yes, but not so disrespectful.
I hate crudeness. But I know I'm watching BB so it's going to happen. What I don't want to see is complete disregard for anyone else's feelings and if some people think their own grandfathers should accept and condone and not complain about that sort of talk then what can I say?
My grandad would have had a stroke there and then.

I am more with you.
Okay Jasmine was drunk I accept that, also in Charlottes case she went on and on with her rather unnecessary and toilet comments when fully sober, although counter balancing that, Charlotte tended to be more careful when around Ron Atkinson thereby showing a little respect.

I certainly,even now at 21,would think as to what I was saying if I was in the company of people much older than myself and would not encourage topics from others that could offend or make someone feel uncomfortable.
Also, this was in effect the first night too, they had only been there a few hours so she showed little respect for anyone really.

It is all well and good to say she was drunk and make that an excuse for what is disrespectful unnecessary behaviour but no one else put themselves in that position.

Lionel, perhaps should have just got up almost immediately and moved elsewhere and more than likely had he not been handcuffed to Ollie he would have done.
That is another element to Jasmine perhaps needing to curb her tongue a little, they are handcuffed to each other and one person cannot just walk away without the others agreement.

I do agree with you that an 82 year old should be shown some respect when in company unless they demonstrate any action not to be given respect.
Really there was no reason in such company for Jasmine to raise the topic at all especially when Lionel was present.
Drunk or not, that was her doing and her fault. I actually admired that Lionel in the end said nothing really and simply walked away from it, after securing Ollie's permission to go with him too.