[M X]

Trust me, I understand you guys who are saying "Why should he be warned? All he was saying is what he believes in, he wasn't aggressive about it." However, would you say the same thing if a white housemate sat there and said "I don't think it's normal to be black. I think they should try and change their race and bleach their skin because their race is a birth defect, like some form of handicap." If the person was completely unaggressive about it, would this be okay and not warrant a warning or removal from the house?

There isn't any difference between homophobia and racism and religion should not be used as an excuse to be able to broadcast that opinion on television. It's like saying that there's nothing wrong with radical extreme muslims voicing their views about terrorism.

[ThisIsNickkk]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Trust me, I understand you guys who are saying "Why should he be warned? All he was saying is what he believes in, he wasn't aggressive about it." However, would you say the same thing if a white housemate sat there and said "I don't think it's normal to be black. I think they should try and change their race and bleach their skin because it's their race is a birth defect, like some form of handicap." If the person was completely unaggressive about it, would this be okay and not warrant a warning or removal from the house?

There isn't any difference between homophobia and racism and religion should not be used as an excuse to be able to broadcast that opinion on television. It's like saying that there's nothing wrong with radical extreme muslims voicing their views about terrorism.

This is why it's such a touchy subject and this is exactly why Channel 5 and Endemol are just trying to cover their backs with the warning.

They can't be seen to be punishing one person for one thing, then if something about race pops up, they may not punish it - just as an example. Therefore, anything that may be seen as a touchy subject and something that the ofcom lot would complain about, they pounce on it and warn just to be on the safe side.

[M X]

Originally Posted by ThisIsNickkk

This is why it's such a touchy subject and this is exactly why Channel 5 and Endemol are just trying to cover their backs with the warning.

They can't be seen to be punishing one person for one thing, then if something about race pops up, they may not punish it - just as an example. Therefore, anything that may be seen as a touchy subject and something that the ofcom lot would complain about, they pounce on it and warn just to be on the safe side.

But to me the warning was so pointless. If that comment had been race related I believe he would have been removed. (Well, if he was white anyway.)

But homophobia is still accepted. That was no punishment. They didn't even tell Evander that it was a formal warning and that if he repeated the behaviour he could be removed. It was just a quick slap on the wrist.

[Braden]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Trust me, I understand you guys who are saying "Why should he be warned? All he was saying is what he believes in, he wasn't aggressive about it." However, would you say the same thing if a white housemate sat there and said "I don't think it's normal to be black. I think they should try and change their race and bleach their skin because their race is a birth defect, like some form of handicap." If the person was completely unaggressive about it, would this be okay and not warrant a warning or removal from the house?

There isn't any difference between homophobia and racism and religion should not be used as an excuse to be able to broadcast that opinion on television. It's like saying that there's nothing wrong with radical extreme muslims voicing their views about terrorism.

I agree with this 100%

In my opinion it doesn't matter how calmly or aggressive he said it. It's still hate speech in my eyes, and of course he's entitled to have his own opinion but I don't understand how people can say they disagree with it but feel that it wasn't as bad just because he said in a soft tone.

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Trust me, I understand you guys who are saying "Why should he be warned? All he was saying is what he believes in, he wasn't aggressive about it." However, would you say the same thing if a white housemate sat there and said "I don't think it's normal to be black. I think they should try and change their race and bleach their skin because their race is a birth defect, like some form of handicap." If the person was completely unaggressive about it, would this be okay and not warrant a warning or removal from the house?

There isn't any difference between homophobia and racism and religion should not be used as an excuse to be able to broadcast that opinion on television. It's like saying that there's nothing wrong with radical extreme muslims voicing their views about terrorism.

You cannot compare race and sexuality, both very different subjects that always seem to get bundled together when they are nothing alike.

[M X]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

You cannot compare race and sexuality, both very different subjects that always seem to get bundled together when they are nothing alike.

Yes you can.

Race = not something you chose.
Sexuality = not something you chose.

Are you noticing a pattern here?

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Yes you can.

Race = not something you chose.
Sexuality = not something you chose.

Are you noticing a pattern here?

Clutching at straws now are we. Carry on.

[M X]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Clutching at straws now are we. Carry on.

Lol, once again you have no valid point so you resort to immature comments. What a surprise.

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Lol, once again you have no valid point so you resort to immature comments. What a surprise.

And yet some of your comments are just as immature. Practice what you preach.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Lol, once again you have no valid point so you resort to immature comments. What a surprise.

shut your pie hole

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Trust me, I understand you guys who are saying "Why should he be warned? All he was saying is what he believes in, he wasn't aggressive about it." However, would you say the same thing if a white housemate sat there and said "I don't think it's normal to be black. I think they should try and change their race and bleach their skin because their race is a birth defect, like some form of handicap." If the person was completely unaggressive about it, would this be okay and not warrant a warning or removal from the house?

There isn't any difference between homophobia and racism and religion should not be used as an excuse to be able to broadcast that opinion on television. It's like saying that there's nothing wrong with radical extreme muslims voicing their views about terrorism.

Yeah I agree if Jim said this he would be castigated and in fairness this is what I expect from Jim

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Trust me, I understand you guys who are saying "Why should he be warned? All he was saying is what he believes in, he wasn't aggressive about it." However, would you say the same thing if a white housemate sat there and said "I don't think it's normal to be black. I think they should try and change their race and bleach their skin because their race is a birth defect, like some form of handicap." If the person was completely unaggressive about it, would this be okay and not warrant a warning or removal from the house?

There isn't any difference between homophobia and racism and religion should not be used as an excuse to be able to broadcast that opinion on television. It's like saying that there's nothing wrong with radical extreme muslims voicing their views about terrorism.

100% agree with you, I think he should have been evicted for that .... I just hope the public evicted him now, as you say if he had made a racist comment he would have been asked to leave, in my eyes there no different being homophobic & racism, there as bad as each other.