[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Oh my god how old are you?!

That's not them suddenly turning gay that's them living in denial for years because they don't want to be gay.

Anyway to all those who said he didn't compare gay people to being handicapped then this video of the whole convo will shut you up.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/05/evande...#ixzz2pdNBbuPY

You dont know that ,you cannot speak for every gay person as much as I cannot speak for all straight people, I am giving you facts of people i know

[Apple202]

why is "it's just their opinion" seemingly only valid when it's to do with homophobia or trans-phobia? if someone was racist or sexist they'd be shouted down, no question about their invalid, ignorant "opinion"

[Jezzy]

My daughter's a redhead. Why is it ok for ginger jokes and ginger beating? Nobody out there protecting ginges....

[Apple202]

^are you serious?

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Apple202

why is "it's just their opinion" seemingly only valid when it's to do with homophobia or trans-phobia? if someone was racist or sexist they'd be shouted down, no question about their invalid, ignorant "opinion"

Maybe society prioritises racism and sexism as important but deem gayism or whatever label you want hang on it, as not that important unless you are gay and suffer from a severe hatred of people that promote homophobic issues. Sadly most homophobic issues can and are interpreted differently depending on your beliefs. My son is gay and he calls his partner head ****, If I did that I would be locked up. What I don't understand is the level of expressionism certain gays have against the smallest of things these days.

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Apple202

^are you serious?

Why?

Isn't it just as random to pick on someone for who they sleep with? What's it got to do with you?

[Apple202]

I don't think anyone has an actual problem with gingers that extends beyond primary school, so if you could not compare it to homophobia that would be fab

[Apple202]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Maybe society prioritises racism and sexism as important but deem gayism or whatever label you want hang on it, as not that important unless you are gay and suffer from a severe hatred of people that promote homophobic issues. Sadly most homophobic issues can and are interpreted differently depending on your beliefs. My son is gay and he calls his partner head ****, If I did that I would be locked up. What I don't understand is the level of expressionism certain gays have against the smallest of things these days.

I'm not wasting my breath on you

Only a ginger, can call another ginger, ginger.

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Apple202

I don't think anyone has an actual problem with gingers that extends beyond primary school, so if you could not compare it to homophobia that would be fab

You would be wrong. In any case, primary school years are formative, they teach you about hatred and isolation. So gingers get it at primary school, so other "minorities"? get it in later life. Who is more equipped to deal with it, and why is any form of prejudice different to any other?

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Only a ginger, can call another ginger, ginger.

I suspect you enjoy watching Tim Minchin

I don't think it's even fair to compare gingers and gay people. I think you can compare gingers with fat people from a societal point of view, but no one has tried to prevent gingers from marrying each other. Although the ginger gene should have to be declared before coitus. Just. In. Case.

Originally Posted by Jezzy

I suspect you enjoy watching Tim Minchin

Just like only a ninja, can sneak up on another ninja.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jezzy

My daughter's a redhead. Why is it ok for ginger jokes and ginger beating? Nobody out there protecting ginges....

I agree actually, people seem to be selective in what they find offensive how many people have called people fatty,ginger,four eyes,****** etc is that not also offensive? but all that seems ok,lol .

[Jezzy]

It'll be the first time in my life I've said it, but Jesus, I think I love you.

Originally Posted by Jezzy

It'll be the first time in my life I've said it, but Jesus, I think I love you.

Well if it's any consolation, I never tire of hearing it!

[courses]

Originally Posted by Jezzy

You would be wrong. In any case, primary school years are formative, they teach you about hatred and isolation. So gingers get it at primary school, so other "minorities"? get it in later life. Who is more equipped to deal with it, and why is any form of prejudice different to any other?

I still get nasty comments occasionally, and I'm well past primary school. I agree I think the point of comparing gingerism(?) to homophobia is to show how ridiculous it is to hate someone for something so arbitrary and out of their control.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

This is refreshingly broad minded, there are cultural differences and a whole host of religious ones which have had a part to play here.
It's really apt on a show called 'big brother' to be hauled over coals by thought police though?

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by courses

I still get nasty comments occasionally, and I'm well past primary school. I agree I think the point of comparing gingerism(?) to homophobia is to show how ridiculous it is to hate someone for something so arbitrary and out of their control.

Exactly that. Thank you courses

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Well if it's any consolation, I never tire of hearing it!

Oh Jesus, don't you ever get tired of the overwhelming love?

[courses]

Originally Posted by Jezzy

Exactly that. Thank you courses

Welcome. I must say I'm sad to have come on here and see such a heated debate, I assumed that everyone would agree that Evander's views are ridiculous and not try to defend him.

[Josiah.]

Okay, I really am offended by some of the comments. Please stop arguing before I bring Josy in to close this thread.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I know people who have married, had children ,then they are gay ,not everyone is born gay

Chuff this is something that happened a lot quite a few years back, when being gay was not only not accepted by most of society but gay sex was illegal. It is not surprising that so many men married & even had children even though they were gay, they were simply living a lie. They did not suddenly wake up one morning & either decide they wanted to be gay or suddenly had an urge for cock!

People ARE born gay, it is not a choice. Did you choose to be straight? Could you decide tomorrow that you fancy a bit of muff Chuff?!?

[Jezzy]

Josiah, you are a mere prophet. The only person that can close this thread is Jesus (or maybe his daddy)

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Josiah.

Okay, I really am offended by some of the comments. Please stop arguing before I bring Josy in to close this thread.

lol what