[lily.]

Originally Posted by Zee

I know it is sexist on the face of it, but she's a parent and he isn't, I think he thinks she should have more self respect because she's a mother, that's how I interpreted it

I thought dappy had a kid too.. :/

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Dappy still makes a good point even if he has two kids.
lol.
If luisa didnt mention the mother bit i would probably not give a flying **** about this arguement as its so stupid.

But luisa is such a bitch.

That was the most stupid part of the argument.

Reminded me of school. "Did you just cuss my mum doeee?!"

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by lily.

I thought dappy had a kid too.. :/

He has two

[jegmeister]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Dappy just finished luisa

er...yeah if you say so

[waylander1973]

Well guess who up next time.

[sampvt]

Snow white slept with 7 and everyone loves her.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Snow white slept with 7 and everyone loves her.

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by MrWong

That was the most stupid part of the argument.

Reminded me of school. "Did you just cuss my mum doeee?!"

Thas not what was said tho..

"Your mother would be ashamed of you" is what was Said.
Won't be shocked if you defend that aswell tbh.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Thas not what was said tho..

"Your mother would be ashamed of you" is what was Said.
Won't be shocked if you defend that aswell tbh.

Don't you think his mum would be ashamed of his sexist views?

He must have been ashamed of them himself as he backtracked.

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Don't you think his mum would be ashamed of his sexist views?

He must have been ashamed of them himself as he backtracked.

Ah there we go.

[Z]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Snow white slept with 7 and everyone loves her.

She was also fed a poisoned apple by a witch for her troubles. Better keep an eye on Linda and the fruit bowl.

[armand.kay]

How can you call anyone a slut when you release your nudes for promo....

[Jezzy]

They are both parents, I honestly feel sorry for their children. Hate to sound like an angry old woman, but whatever happened to setting an example?

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

How cam you anyone a slut when you release your nudes for promo....

Because he is a hypocrite

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Because he is a hypocrite

Sis you clicked quote before I edited the post.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jezzy

They are both parents, I honestly feel sorry for their children. Hate to sound like an angry old woman, but whatever happened to setting an example?

oh you and your old fashioned values

[Clangy]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

How can you call anyone a slut when you release your nudes for promo....

his nudes were released nearly a month before his first single, he must have been lying in the task the other day.

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

oh you and your old fashioned values

[Jack_]

Hilarious argument but of course Dappy was wrong, I mean how can there be a discussion about this? That's if we're talking about the actual subject of the argument of course, as far as I'm concerned their respective conduct throughout is a bit irrelevant to the discussion. If we're talking about what the argument actually transpired from, then there's no debate to be had to be quite honest.

Thinking that it's alright for a man to sleep around but if a woman does it she's a 'slut' is exactly the kind of misogynistic and sexist drivel I was going on about the other night. Completely hypocritical, bullsh*t nonsense.

[MarcusMel]

Ok - I'm 57, Dappy and his opinion I disagree with. Women have every right to be and do what fits their needs just the same as men. Lee from Blue is as much a slut as Luisa. We are not all the same in terms of what we feel we need nor are we all the same in what we believe is right.

So the question is 'Why does Dappy feel so strongly about how many men a woman sleeps with?"

Perhaps behind this something else!

Perhaps Dappy was getting emotional about Luisa and now feels his affections have been betrayed because Luisa enjoys a less personal relationship with men but just likes to enjoy the bodily pleasure they can give her.

After all any exploration of what happens in the world would reveal that Dappy's opinions are irrelevant. People of the world will do as they like no matter what others think. So there is no argument outside of CBB whether what Luisa does is wrong or right.

Personally the stalking by Dappy to punish Luisa for lifestyle was unpleasant to see.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by MarcusMel

Ok - I'm 57, Dappy and his opinion I disagree with. Women have every right to be and do what fits their needs just the same as men. Lee from Blue is as much a slut as Luisa. We are not all the same in terms of what we feel we need nor are we all the same in what we believe is right.

So the question is 'Why does Dappy feel so strongly about how many men a woman sleeps with?"

Perhaps behind this something else!

Perhaps Dappy was getting emotional about Luisa and now feels his affections have been betrayed because Luisa enjoys a less personal relationship with men but just likes to enjoy the bodily pleasure they can give her.

After all any exploration of what happens in the world would reveal that Dappy's opinions are irrelevant. People of the world will do as they like no matter what others think. So there is no argument outside of CBB whether what Luisa does is wrong or right.

Personally the stalking by Dappy to punish Luisa for lifestyle was unpleasant to see.

Welcome to the forum

[Z]

What I find interesting about the topic of conversation Dappy brought up is that it's rarely looked at the other way round... as in, there's focus on why is it that when a woman does it she's a slut but a man does it and he's a pimp... but why is it never looked at from the point of view of why do men feel no shame about sleeping around whereas women, whether consciously or not, are really sensitive to being criticised for doing the same thing? Why do men not feel any guilt for doing it? It's an interesting debate, but I don't think Dappy OR Luisa have the mental capacity to discuss such a topic, at least not without it getting personal as shown by tonight!

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Zee

What I find interesting about the topic of conversation Dappy brought up is that it's rarely looked at the other way round... as in, there's focus on why is it that when a woman does it she's a slut but a man does it and he's a pimp... but why is it never looked at from the point of view of why do men feel no shame about sleeping around whereas women, whether consciously or not, are really sensitive to being criticised for doing the same thing? Why do men not feel any guilt for doing it? It's an interesting debate, but I don't think Dappy OR Luisa have the mental capacity to discuss such a topic, at least not without it getting personal as shown by tonight!

Because we live in a culture dominated by men and a belief system that perpetuates this idea that women must remain pure and only have sex within a relationship whilst men are celebrated and encouraged on a daily basis to look at women as objects and boast about how many they've slept with. Personally I couldn't care less regardless of gender as I addressed in the other thread, but it really pisses me off how sexist this idea is and how unfortunately prevalent it is.

I will say though is that women do go a long way as to perpetuating this belief themselves and it's sad, because it is mainly girls that you will hear every day discussing other 'sluts' and I find it so depressing to listen to, I just want to shake them and tell them to wake up and realise what's actually happening, how some men are doing exactly the same thing around them and yet no one's paying them any attention.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Hilarious argument but of course Dappy was wrong, I mean how can there be a discussion about this? That's if we're talking about the actual subject of the argument of course, as far as I'm concerned their respective conduct throughout is a bit irrelevant to the discussion. If we're talking about what the argument actually transpired from, then there's no debate to be had to be quite honest.

Thinking that it's alright for a man to sleep around but if a woman does it she's a 'slut' is exactly the kind of misogynistic and sexist drivel I was going on about the other night. Completely hypocritical, bullsh*t nonsense.

Originally Posted by MarcusMel

Ok - I'm 57, Dappy and his opinion I disagree with. Women have every right to be and do what fits their needs just the same as men. Lee from Blue is as much a slut as Luisa. We are not all the same in terms of what we feel we need nor are we all the same in what we believe is right.

So the question is 'Why does Dappy feel so strongly about how many men a woman sleeps with?"

Perhaps behind this something else!

Perhaps Dappy was getting emotional about Luisa and now feels his affections have been betrayed because Luisa enjoys a less personal relationship with men but just likes to enjoy the bodily pleasure they can give her.

After all any exploration of what happens in the world would reveal that Dappy's opinions are irrelevant. People of the world will do as they like no matter what others think. So there is no argument outside of CBB whether what Luisa does is wrong or right.

Personally the stalking by Dappy to punish Luisa for lifestyle was unpleasant to see.

Originally Posted by Jack_

Because we live in a culture dominated by men and a belief system that perpetuates this idea that women must remain pure and only have sex within a relationship whilst men are celebrated and encouraged on a daily basis to look at women as objects and boast about how many they've slept with. Personally I couldn't care less regardless of gender as I addressed in the other thread, but it really pisses me off how sexist this idea is and how unfortunately prevalent it is.

I will say though is that women do go a long way as to perpetuating this belief themselves and it's sad, because it is mainly girls that you will hear every day discussing other 'sluts' and I find it so depressing to listen to, I just want to shake them and tell them to wake up and realise what's actually happening, how some men are doing exactly the same thing around them and yet no one's paying them any attention.

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Okay, 'morally wrong'.
Making a sexist comment is morally wrong, and you have to be a misogynist to agree with what Dappy said.

Great posts, all of these.

[rionablue]

ok my opinion for what its worth is that neither of then won this argument and both actually did themselves no favours. Firstly both OF THEM said things in the heat of the argument that they shouldn't have. BOTH of them got personal her referring to his mother him referring to her daughter. Men sleeping with 5 women in a night is no different to Women sleeping with five men. Both are to be judged the same and not to be seen in any kind of good light at that. The one thing that I felt incriminated Dappy a very small bit more than Luisa is that he kept following her and continuing the argument and each time that happened it blew it up even more. it didn't look good for any of them and I don't think that either of their fans can really defend their personal favourite and say one was worse than the other cos in my eyes ( and I happen to like Luisa and moderately like Dappy) it was a stupid slanging match that should have finished in the first scene and not gone to scene 2 3 or 4