[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Zee

Everyone else is coping fine...

Luisa isn't fine, she thinks he's horrible and she's only known him a matter of days

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Luisa isn't fine, she thinks he's horrible and she's only known him a matter of days

She thinks everyone is horrible that doesn't agree with every word she says...she's a gobby cow.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Videostar

She thinks everyone is horrible that doesn't agree with every word she says...she's a gobby cow.

That's an objective analysis... from what I've seen luisa gets on with everyone, except him.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's an objective analysis... from what I've seen luisa gets on with everyone, except him.

Lionel, Dappy,? everyone else keeps their heads down and tries not to awake the beast.

Sam and Ollie would agree with her if she told them to run into a brick wall.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Luisa isn't fine, she thinks he's horrible and she's only known him a matter of days

Lol yeah right. Luisa can sit in a room with Jim without inventing an argument out of thin air; she doesn't like the guy and he doesn't like her but it's not ruining her experience in the house. The only person whose experience is being ruined is Linda, her hate for Jim has consumed her thoughts and it's all she's been able to talk about the entire time she's been in there. Otherwise she's a very pedestrian housemate who hasn't contributed anything of note; I can't think of a single thing Linda's provided for discussion other than about Jim.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Zee

Lol yeah right. Luisa can sit in a room with Jim without inventing an argument out of thin air; she doesn't like the guy and he doesn't like her but it's not ruining her experience in the house. The only person whose experience is being ruined is Linda, her hate for Jim has consumed her thoughts and it's all she's been able to talk about the entire time she's been in there. Otherwise she's a very pedestrian housemate who hasn't contributed anything of note; I can't think of a single thing Linda's provided for discussion other than about Jim.

I agree. They're even planning to cook together later. I bet Linda will be looking on like this :

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zee

Lol yeah right. Luisa can sit in a room with Jim without inventing an argument out of thin air; she doesn't like the guy and he doesn't like her but it's not ruining her experience in the house. The only person whose experience is being ruined is Linda, her hate for Jim has consumed her thoughts and it's all she's been able to talk about the entire time she's been in there. Otherwise she's a very pedestrian housemate who hasn't contributed anything of note; I can't think of a single thing Linda's provided for discussion other than about Jim.

yep, all that is spot on. Any argument Jim and Luisa have had was for actual reasons (on both sides) whereas you can almost see Lindas mind ticking over anytime Jim speaks like she's waiting on the chance to jump on something he says, anything that could even remotely be used against him. This hate for him seems all consuming in her. Now again, i have no idea what he's done to her to make her feel and act that way and maybe it is deserved, who knows? but being that bitter is really not good for a person and she can't be happy like that. I was going to add that she probably shouldn't have gone in this year because those feeling of pure hate towards him are so strong but it sounds like she really needed the cash, so i feel sorry for her in that way. I do think she'd feel alot better though in herself if she could try to let these negative feeling go and move forward

[Z]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

yep, all that is spot on. Any argument Jim and Luisa have had was for actual reasons (on both sides) whereas you can almost see Lindas mind ticking over anytime Jim speaks like she's waiting on the chance to jump on something he says, anything that could even remotely be used against him. This hate for him seems all consuming in her. Now again, i have no idea what he's done to her to make her feel and act that way and maybe it is deserved, who knows? but being that bitter is really not good for a person and she can't be happy like that. I was going to add that she probably shouldn't have gone in this year because those feeling of pure hate towards him are so strong but it sounds like she really needed the cash, so i feel sorry for her in that way. I do think she'd feel alot better though in herself if she could try to let these negative feeling go and move forward

I think so too. I was watching clips of her with her sisters when they were on Loose Women in 2007 and she seemed so happy, full of life and was smiling throughout. Linda is not an inherently bitter, sour person - I just think that life has made her that way in the last 7 years and unfortunately for her we're seeing a very negative side of her because Jim is a reminder of a low point in her past. If she let go of her anger towards him she'd be much happier overall. She doesn't have to forget but within herself she needs to forgive or she's going to be forever miserable.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zee

I think so too. I was watching clips of her with her sisters when they were on Loose Women in 2007 and she seemed so happy, full of life and was smiling throughout. Linda is not an inherently bitter, sour person - I just think that life has made her that way in the last 7 years and unfortunately for her we're seeing a very negative side of her because Jim is a reminder of a low point in her past. If she let go of her anger towards him she'd be much happier overall. She doesn't have to forget but within herself she needs to forgive or she's going to be forever miserable.

Yeah and i think you hit the nail on the head with the BIB, I'm just guessing here but I'd guess that whatever he did wasn't as bad as she's making out or trying to believe herself even, just that it reminds her of how things started to go bad for her

[Z]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah and i think you hit the nail on the head with the BIB, I'm just guessing here but I'd guess that whatever he did wasn't as bad as she's making out or trying to believe herself even, just that it reminds her of how things started to go bad for her

Yeah I think you're right. Her husband was convicted of theft and I'm maybe joining dots that aren't there but perhaps he was stealing because they were having financial difficulties/had poor spending habits and it all spiralled out of control after his conviction, then he passed away etc... so I don't think life has been easy for Linda since then

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Zee

Lol yeah right. Luisa can sit in a room with Jim without inventing an argument out of thin air; she doesn't like the guy and he doesn't like her but it's not ruining her experience in the house. The only person whose experience is being ruined is Linda, her hate for Jim has consumed her thoughts and it's all she's been able to talk about the entire time she's been in there. Otherwise she's a very pedestrian housemate who hasn't contributed anything of note; I can't think of a single thing Linda's provided for discussion other than about Jim.

It's all she's been shown talking about zee... we only see an hour of highlights.
If jim thinks his will is stronger than luisas he's mistaken.

[flamingGalah!]

I don't know if Linda is really a fruitcake or if she is just as argumentative & irrational on the outside, whatever she is a bitch...

[Z]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's all she's been shown talking about zee... we only see an hour of highlights.
If jim thinks his will is stronger than luisas he's mistaken.

It's all she's been shown talking about, Kizzy, because that's all she talks about. We do not see Luisa sit and talk about Jim every episode because Luisa has fun, talks about different things and is an entertaining housemate. Also I have no idea what the second part of your comment is talking about or where it came from? Jim thinking his will is stronger than Luisa's? Eh?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Zee

It's all she's been shown talking about, Kizzy, because that's all she talks about. We do not see Luisa sit and talk about Jim every episode because Luisa has fun, talks about different things and is an entertaining housemate. Also I have no idea what the second part of your comment is talking about or where it came from? Jim thinking his will is stronger than Luisa's? Eh?

I meant he won't be able to control or manipulate her like he does dappy, he won't be able to perform his mind feckery on luisa.
In business I bet she's chewed and spat out blokes like him.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I meant he won't be able to control or manipulate her like he does dappy, he won't be able to perform his mind feckery on luisa.
In business I bet she's chewed and spat out blokes like him.

I don't think he's controlling or manipulating anyone - Dappy's made a point of befriending everyone to avoid being up for eviction and Jim doesn't have any other friends in the house.

In addition to that, yes, Luisa is strong willed and isn't taken in by anyone else's game playing - she's very direct, calls things as she sees them and I think she'd be a worthy winner, even if she's a total brat

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Zee

I don't think he's controlling or manipulating anyone - Dappy's made a point of befriending everyone to avoid being up for eviction and Jim doesn't have any other friends in the house.

In addition to that, yes, Luisa is strong willed and isn't taken in by anyone else's game playing - she's very direct, calls things as she sees them and I think she'd be a worthy winner, even if she's a total brat

Ah I see it as tic tacs, but we'll see...
There's definitely more to her than T&A, no wonder jim dislikes her