[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Yeah, I'm well aware that people came later, but exactly what are you using as a cut off point? Some of the founding fathers were slave owners, so I'm a bit confused at your portrayal of the history of the US as being bad at the start, but it was all cleared up as quickly as anything, when the US was battling appalling race crimes and segregation more recently than we were both fighting Nazism.

This is moving miles away from my initial argument that there are no such things as evil traits within the people that share a piece of land and live in close proximity to each other - that's the point I came into this thread to make, so I have no idea how we're now on American history!!

I'm objecting to your moral relativism, we are talking a very specific time in history and very specific behaviors and actions by specific countries.

I'm objecting to you acting like everyone is just equally weevil to let's just pretend it didn't happen.

I'm objecting to relativism in general.

I'm objecting to the idea that you can't criticize specific countries actions during specific times, and let's just all shut up and forgive everyone for everything and say that the whole world is evil, humans are evil, and no one should judge anyone else, and let's just act like everything that happens in the world is just part of one big pot of ****, therefore you never hold any specific country accountable. That's what i'm objecting to.

It's not fair to say that all humans are evil, so let's just forget which countries did what to whom. Sorry, but we shouldn't forget, and yes certain countries did certain things and they should ALWAYS be held accountable for them.

Not all humans were evil during ww2, Japan and Germany and Italy were evil. And it's a disgrace to act like all countries were wrong back then, cause we weren't. some countries are worse than others. i'm sick of this relativistic idea of equality.

All Countries are NOT equal. All Cultures are NOT equal. All People are NOT equal.