[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

No idea who she is, but fair play.

She's Juno

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by smeagol

lol am i? you obviously dont know the meaning of the word courage.
its self important ego on display nothing more

No it's not, you have no clue what you're on about. Being gay is not having a self important ego and her sharing her experience to help others despite the fact it could kill her career is courageous

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

No idea who she is, but fair play.

Have you seen Inception? Shes the main girl in that, the architect

[Samm]

smeagol, plz shut up x

[Vicky.]

Would it really kill her career in this day and age though? Maybe like 50 years ago or something, but the world is much more tolerant now..hell, among my mates there seem to be round about an equal number of straight and gay/bi.

Also its MUCH easier for a lesbian. They dont face quite the same prejudices as gay men do. Women dont care really, and men just fantasise about lesbian sex

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Would it really kill her career in this day and age though? Maybe like 50 years ago or something, but the world is much more tolerant now..hell, among my mates there seem to be round about an equal number of straight and gay/bi.

Also its MUCH easier for a lesbian. They dont face quite the same prejudices as gay men do. Women dont care really, and men just fantasise about lesbian sex

Shes in hollywood, not soap or TV. I can only think of Jodie Foster who is out. I think it's quite a big deal

But yeah, your second point is true, which makes those people hypocrites

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Shes in hollywood, not soap or TV. I can only think of Jodie Foster who is out.

I dont see what difference that makes?

I mean, good on her for coming out and all. I just dont see why there needs to be such a fanfare everytime a celeb comes out, thats all :S It makes out to others that its a massive deal..when really its not, its just how you were born

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Sam <3

smeagol, plz shut up x

you first

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I dont see what difference that makes?

I mean, good on her for coming out and all. I just dont see why there needs to be such a fanfare everytime a celeb comes out, thats all :S

Just that hollywood & old directors & film makers are known to be homophobic & have old views

[Samm]

It must be very hard to come out male or female, I'm male myself I have came out to parts of my family that I see the most, it took me along time this is one reason I would never want to be famous having to come out to the world.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

No it's not, you have no clue what you're on about. Being gay is not having a self important ego and her sharing her experience to help others despite the fact it could kill her career is courageous

i have no clue ? i am in the real world this is 2014 not 1954. no one cares
we dont need self important celebs making abig deal about their pathetic lives.
courage in saying ooh look at me. you think thats courage. jesus

courage is davina doing what she did for charity.not some celeb saying look at me i like girls lol and also a not even that famous one

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by smeagol

i have no clue ? i am in the real world this is 2014 not 1954. no one cares
we dont need self important celebs making abig deal about their pathetic lives.
courage in saying ooh look at me. you think thats courage. jesus

courage is davina doing what she did for charity.not some celeb saying look at me i like girls lol and also a not even that famous one

I'd say shes pretty famous, I've seen 4 of her films & i cba to reply to the rest

[Samm]

Originally Posted by smeagol

i have no clue ? i am in the real world this is 2014 not 1954. no one cares
we dont need self important celebs making abig deal about their pathetic lives.
courage in saying ooh look at me. you think thats courage. jesus

courage is davina doing what she did for charity.not some celeb saying look at me i like girls lol and also a not even that famous one

Why are you saying something completely irrelevant

[Vicky.]

A bit OT but what did davina do for charity?

[MeMyselfAndI]

Davina McCall completes her gruelling 500-mile seven-day Sport Relief challenge - cycling, running and swimming from*Edinborough to london
(copied)

[Vicky.]

Oh. Thanks

[Samm]

Well Done to Her!

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Sam <3

Why are you saying something completely irrelevant

its not irrelevant. someone is saying what she done is courage that's not courage. courage is what some other celebs do. not the self absorbed ones

[Samm]

Originally Posted by smeagol

its not irrelevant. someone is saying what she done is courage that's not courage. courage is what some other celebs do. not the self absorbed ones

It is courage coming out I have done it, you haven't.

Anyway I'm not wasting my energy on you so bye

[MeMyselfAndI]

Coming out as gay is not being self absorbed? Ellen can't help it if the news picks it up

[GypsyGoth]

The fact people claim not to care about it is a good thing, yet the same people don't go into threads on soaps-they-don't-watch to announce they don't care about this soap, so maybe part of them does care. Or else they wouldn't be in this thread.

Anyway one of the main reasons for Ellen coming out, it's for her own mental well being.

Also a high visibility of lgbt in a society emphasizes how normal and every day people of a different sexuality are. When we hide, then it allows crazies to push whatever agendas they want on society, claiming we're bad or wicked, that we should be imprisoned, or we're like that because we haven't met the right man. If everyone who wasn't a heterosexual hid, then there would be no one to speak out. No role models, no successful actresses/business/teachers... we could point to highlight that because you love someone of the same gender, well that doesn't make you a bad person.

So who benefits if famous people don't come out and stay in the closet? Not the lgbt community for sure.

What Ellen did could cost her a lot of roles in hollywood, sure she's made a lot of friends and supporters, but even judging from this thread, she's upset some people.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Slevin

i see your point smeagol. its fine whatever anyones preference is. i sometimes find it funny on shows when people introduce themselves only the gay ones mention their sexual preference. not all the time but a good amount. especially on the reality shows over here in the US. i just think who cares but not in a harsh way. i just dont see the need to mention it. now if someone asks then ok.

Really? But if someone is scared and is fighting not to be gay its their personal torment. Wether people accept it or are fine with it is a totally different issue, the struggle to admit to yourself as gay is the hardest part, its a personal struggle.

On the other hand though I can also see why people are afraid to tell people around them, its fine to think that its no big deal but it still is, look at Kansas and Russia gay people are still being isolated and seen as health risks, perverts and a lower species.

I find I do have to tell people im gay whenever I start a new job unfortunately because there's always the *do you have a gf comment or *do you think SHES fit.

Why would I lie and make life hard? People do care about peoples sexuality and always will as long as religion, politics and scared or small minded people are on the earth. Lets be real its never going to be 100% accepted....Its like saying world peace will eventually happen.

[smeagol]

you just cant speak to some people. they only see them selves and not the subject,
this is about celebs not you. or whether they like crisps or biscuits lol

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by smeagol

you just cant speak to some people. they only see them selves and not the subject,
this is about celebs not you. or whether they like crisps or biscuits lol

Im talking bout gay people in general and using examples of my own personal experiences.

Its totally related to the subject and I think you should learn to not be so black and white about things as these issues run much deeper than your own little wash my hands of the topic opinion.

Also it wasn't only about celebs she was speaking to hundreds of gay people about issues that effect everyday LGBT members of society.

Your post was plain rude.

Do you just want me to talk bout Juno?

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

The fact people claim not to care about it is a good thing, yet the same people don't go into threads on soaps-they-don't-watch to announce they don't care about this soap, so maybe part of them does care. Or else they wouldn't be in this thread.

Anyway one of the main reasons for Ellen coming out, it's for her own mental well being.

Also a high visibility of lgbt in a society emphasizes how normal and every day people of a different sexuality are. When we hide, then it allows crazies to push whatever agendas they want on society, claiming we're bad or wicked, that we should be imprisoned, or we're like that because we haven't met the right man. If everyone who wasn't a heterosexual hid, then there would be no one to speak out. No role models, no successful actresses/business/teachers... we could point to highlight that because you love someone of the same gender, well that doesn't make you a bad person.

So who benefits if famous people don't come out and stay in the closet? Not the lgbt community for sure.

What Ellen did could cost her a lot of roles in hollywood, sure she's made a lot of friends and supporters, but even judging from this thread, she's upset some people.

Great post