[Kizzy]

Street angels are volunteers that aid people in many city centres who are too drunk to get themselves home, what are your thoughts on them? Have you ever been helped by one? Seriously considering signing up.

'Street Angels Leeds
Usually on Street Angels the first half of the night is really quiet. We walk around and chat to the door staff and we chat to revellers too around the city centre however tonight was a very different story. Just after we got going after 10 o'clock we started getting calls on the radio asking for our help. It was a busy night, we helped several people who were unconscious or not able to walk - we got them into ambulances or taxis and helped to save them from being assaulted or just on their own, stranded in the centre.

So many people get abandoned by their friends on a night out it's really difficult to understand why. Leeds - please make sure you stay with your friends throughout a night out - check where they are, call them or text if you have to - its not very nice when people are left on their own often with no handbag, no mobile phone and sometimes so drunk that they are unable to even say where they live, we had that tonight.

When you go out stay together and have fun'

http://leedsstreetangels.org.uk/

[Kazanne]

it sounds a really good idea on paper Kizzy and a kind one on behalf of the 'angel' but what if one of them turned on you?you just never know with people who are drunk which way they will go,so don't you be signing up we don't want you hurt.I suppose it's too much to ask for people to drink sensibly? yes I thought so

[Kizzy]

I know but with 3 unis Leeds can get very messy Don't worry I'll be fine, I'm a night owl anyway and think how good it'll look when I apply next year?

[Josy]

I agree with what Kazanne said, sounds like a nice thing to do, looks good on paper and a lot of the people helped would probably be grateful but then threres always a few that would get nasty so yeah there's some dangers involved.

[arista]

Yes it seems a Great help.


Kizzy how would you stop some man wanting to kiss you?

[LeatherTrumpet]

"We are a Christian project"

Its a just a cover for a bunch of christians thinking they are being "godly" by helping people who are "drunk" so they can "save" them

Awful.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes it seems a Great help.


Kizzy how would you stop some man wanting to kiss you?

Same as always I just set my aura to 'deflect' arista

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"We are a Christian project"

Its a just a cover for a bunch of christians thinking they are being "godly" by helping people who are "drunk" so they can "save" them

Awful.

I'm not a christian, It's not mandatory.

[Z]

I think you'd have to have a suicide wish to do this up in Aberdeen but it's a very good idea

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm not a christian, It's not mandatory.

No neither is going to church.

If you want to make a difference join the police

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Zee

I think you'd have to have a suicide wish to do this up in Aberdeen but it's a very good idea

They are just a pain for the police

[Z]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No neither is going to church.

If you want to make a difference join the police

If you have an overwhelming love of doing paperwork and not very much policing then join the police.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes it seems a Great help.


Kizzy how would you stop some man wanting to kiss you?

arista ! you'll just have to control yourself

[Z]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

They are just a pain for the police

In what way are they a pain for the police? The police have better things to be doing than checking if the passed out guy in the doorway is still conscious; like separating the drunk guy who's trying to batter the other drunk guy for looking at him funny

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Zee

If you have an overwhelming love of doing paperwork and not very much policing then join the police.

That is a pretty stereotypical view that is inaccurate. paperwork is much less now due to the digital age but good records are very important.






Especially when fitting people up

[Z]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

That is a pretty stereotypical view that is inaccurate. paperwork is much less now due to the digital age but good records are very important.






Especially when fitting people up

It's well documented (way hey hey) that the police spend more time filing reports than they actually do out on the streets. Incident reports are time consuming.

[Kizzy]

I have a degree in Public Services so I could join the police.... but I also have a CCJ so I can't
I don't think you know much about them trumpet, they are welcomed by the police, well in Leeds they are.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I have a degree in Public Services so I could join the police.... but I also have a CCJ so I can't
I don't think you know much about them trumpet, they are welcomed by the police, well in Leeds they are.

I do know quite a bit and know some people who do it. Its a total waste of time and misguided sentiment from people who think they will somehow save the people. Its arrogant christian nonsense.

[Z]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I do know quite a bit and know some people who do it. Its a total waste of time and misguided sentiment from people who think they will somehow save the people. Its arrogant christian nonsense.

Why is it arrogant nonsense? Do you not think deaths like that girl who fell off the bridge and drowned the other month are totally avoidable and something like Street Angels can help to reduce accidents like that from happening? And does it really matter if people are only doing it to make themselves feel better? They're still helping others.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Zee

Why is it arrogant nonsense? Do you not think deaths like that girl who fell off the bridge and drowned the other month are totally avoidable and something like Street Angels can help to reduce accidents like that from happening? And does it really matter if people are only doing it to make themselves feel better? They're still helping others.

What the feck are you on about? To link that poor girls death to some point about SA is ridiculous


I question if they are helping anyone. Who decides if someone is drunk? Do they want help, do they want some middle aged berk telling them about some made up claptrap about some god who will help them but watch 20,000 children die of hunger 365 days a year?

Its just too silly and is more about assuaging their christian guilt than helping anyone

in my opinion

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I do know quite a bit and know some people who do it. Its a total waste of time and misguided sentiment from people who think they will somehow save the people. Its arrogant christian nonsense.

How many people do you know who do it, and where do they do it....are they christian?
As I stated earlier I'm not. I don't want to 'save' people, just assist them if they're too intoxicated and or alone. What could be perceived as arrogant about that? I have been in that position before myself and believe me a friendly face would have been most welcome.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How many people do you know who do it, and where do they do it....are they christian?
As I stated earlier I'm not. I don't want to 'save' people, just assist them if they're too intoxicated and or alone. What could be perceived as arrogant about that? I have been in that position before myself and believe me a friendly face would have been most welcome.

So how will you decide on who is so pissed that they need help or who is alone and needs help?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What the feck are you on about? To link that poor girls death to some point about SA is ridiculous


I question if they are helping anyone. Who decides if someone is drunk? Do they want help, do they want some middle aged berk telling them about some made up claptrap about some god who will help them but watch 20,000 children die of hunger 365 days a year?

Its just too silly and is more about assuaging their christian guilt than helping anyone

in my opinion

For the third time I am not a christian or a middle aged berk thankyou very much, zee is totally right in suggesting that her death could have been avoided if she had been identified as being at risk and at least escorted over the bridge.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

For the third time I am not a christian or a middle aged berk thankyou very much, zee is totally right in suggesting that her death could have been avoided if she had been identified as being at risk and at least escorted over the bridge.

And how would you have identified her as being at risk, its a theory that she fell in pissed but she could have tripped and fell or just jumped which is also very likely. Are you intending to stop everyone who goes over a bridge or just the ones who "look suicidal"?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So how will you decide on who is so pissed that they need help or who is alone and needs help?

'We patrol the city – centre from 10pm – 3am every Friday night, and we commit to being part of the team at least once a month.
We work in pairs and walk around the busy areas of the city wearing our hi – vis jackets. We build relationships with doorstaff, police and medical teams, and chat with people who are out and about.
We carry resources which help people out such as flip flops & water bottles, we give directions, help to reunite people with friends and/or possessions and aim to help people get home safely at the end of the night.
In particular we care for those who may have become vulnerable in the nightlife for any number of reasons.'