[Livia]

I think we should all go on strike until everyone gets the pay and conditions that teachers get, and for a 36 week year. And any pay increase should be results-based because although there are many brilliant teachers, there are also some really, really useless ones being protected by the union.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

And any pay increase should be results-based because although there are many brilliant teachers, there are also some really, really useless ones being protected by the union.

I also agree with this: there are some truly amazing, horrendously undervalued teachers out there who never rise beyond the rank-and-file because thwyre concentrating on teaching and not playing workplace politics. And then there are some absolutely useless, lazy teachers who were being paid far more than what they're worth in the first place as general teachers, who often rise to department heads or other supervisory roles within schools and earn good money, simply because they cackle with the right crowd at lunch time.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I also agree with this: there are some truly amazing, horrendously undervalued teachers out there who never rise beyond the rank-and-file because thwyre concentrating on teaching and not playing workplace politics. And then there are some absolutely useless, lazy teachers who were being paid far more than what they're worth in the first place as general teachers, who often rise to department heads or other supervisory roles within schools and earn good money, simply because they cackle with the right crowd at lunch time.

..I don't think that I've ever been aware of/or witnessed that happening but maybe you have...I agree there are some not so good teachers as there is in anything but the way that it's all structured now with Ofsted requirements/budgets etc and even a lot of the Curriculum itself all it's going to mean is that there will be a lot more 'bad teachers' as it's no longer becoming a vocation and that isn't the fault of teaching staff who want to 'teach' as a priority, of which there are many....