[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I was thinking that. Arista's "but they probably wouldn't die because the spikes aren't sharp" argument probably wouldn't hold up in court...

Meh. If I was homeless and desperate, I'd just go and headbutt one, then claim compensation from whoever put them in. They are an obvious trip hazard, if nothing else, and then when you DO trip, it's on top of metal studs! Fun!

..it's also a bit like how far do you go..?...maybe mantraps..?..yeah, however annoying or however much of a problem it may be to them, these are not solutions..and that's the reality of it...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Live on LBC Radio

Nic just said you do not want a Homeless person urinating before
they move on, just as you come out of your flat, in the morning.

See Kizzy
The Bog Issue is Live

Leading Britains conversation? Well their not leading mine! they can take their 'new right' agenda and BOG OFF!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I was thinking that. Arista's "but they probably wouldn't die because the spikes aren't sharp" argument probably wouldn't hold up in court...

Meh. If I was homeless and desperate, I'd just go and headbutt one, then claim compensation from whoever put them in. They are an obvious trip hazard, if nothing else, and then when you DO trip, it's on top of metal studs! Fun!

they would Section you

[Benjamin]

Thought this was going to be a thread about hot men who campaign for homeless people

[arista]

On the Wright Stuff

they showed a Picture of them outside of Tesco Window

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

On the Wright Stuff

they showed a Picture of them outside of Tesco Window

He can bog off as well....

[Nedusa]

These studs are an absolute disgrace, if you want to deter homeless sleepers then build more houses / shelters.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

These studs are an absolute disgrace, if you want to deter homeless sleepers then build more houses / shelters.

Yes I will let that private block of flat know and I guess they can start doing that after the weekend

[Crimson Dynamo]

Have you ever wondered why bus shelters now have a small gap around the bottom?

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Have you ever wondered why bus shelters now have a small gap around the bottom?

No......why ?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

No......why ?

to stop homeless using them for shelter at night

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

to stop homeless using them for shelter at night

Oh..........I thought it was so urine could drain away after being used as a toilet by late night pissheads

[Kizzy]

Up to 300 people will sleep rough on the streets of London tonight, many of them skilled, intelligent and likeable people, and many of whom want to work.

http://www.streetsoflondon.org.uk/about-homelessness

[Northern Monkey]

Spikes? C'mon do we live in medieval times?Why not just put up a wrought iron gate,That's all i did when some little ****s tried breaking into my tool cupboard under my house,Worked a treat.

[King Gizzard]

would like to see the lawsuit when someone falls over onto that

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nathan

would like to see the lawsuit when someone falls over onto that

Yes some would
but there are more important things in life
like getting out of your flat
and smelling Urine

[Z]

I read one criticism of this idea earlier that was along the lines of "how dare they insinuate being homeless is a problem" - err, it is a problem!? People aren't homeless by choice, they're homeless because they have nowhere else to go and no opportunities to fix their own problems. It might seem draconian to put down anti-homeless studs in alcoves and other places where people might try and get protection from the elements but it needs to be done IMO... as long as they have somewhere to go instead!! More needs to be done for homeless people.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes some would
but there are more important things in life
like getting out of your flat
and smelling Urine

The word homeless means they have no home, going to the toilet is a natural act and also a necessary and vital one. Perhaps that situation could be helped by 'not' closing and also ensuring there are more public toilets for all people to use,not just the homeless.
A bit of right and sensible compassion involved in planning is what's needed.

A neighbour of mine,where I am at present has a bush that is spiky,he was guiding it along his fence to deter people climbing into his garden, he was told and in fact ordered by the local authority to remove the bush as it was considered 'dangerous' and harmful to passers by.
So how on earth can these studs be right and allowed, as a good few have said, what if a child slipped on them,a bang to the head on those could actually be fatal.

So easy to bash the homeless and people genuinely down and out but then to support companies with spare funds who are wasting money on moving problems rather than helping solve them.

Absolute disgrace but then look at the example there is from central Govt.this biggest bunch of 'we don't care about the weak and vulnerable' band of rubbish we have likely ever had running the Nation.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Z

I read one criticism of this idea earlier that was along the lines of "how dare they insinuate being homeless is a problem" - err, it is a problem!? People aren't homeless by choice, they're homeless because they have nowhere else to go and no opportunities to fix their own problems. It might seem draconian to put down anti-homeless studs in alcoves and other places where people might try and get protection from the elements but it needs to be done IMO... as long as they have somewhere to go instead!! More needs to be done for homeless people.

At last a Good Young View Point

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The word homeless means they have no home, going to the toilet is a natural act and also a necessary and vital one. Perhaps that situation could be helped by 'not' closing and also ensuring there are more public toilets for all people to use,not just the homeless.
A bit of right and sensible compassion involved in planning is what's needed.

A neighbour of mine,where I am at present has a bush that is spiky,he was guiding it along his fence to deter people climbing into his garden, he was told and in fact ordered by the local authority to remove the bush as it was considered 'dangerous' and harmful to passers by.
So how on earth can these studs be right and allowed, as a good few have said, what if a child slipped on them,a bang to the head on those could actually be fatal.

So easy to bash the homeless and people genuinely down and out but then to support companies with spare funds who are wasting money on moving problems rather than helping solve them.

Absolute disgrace but then look at the example there is from central Govt.this biggest bunch of 'we don't care about the weak and vulnerable' band of rubbish we have likely ever had running the Nation.

No Joey
there is help
but some Drunk Homeless
are a pain

[Marsh.]

No arista, it's an obvious case of "not on my doorstep" only in this case it's quite literal.

Not providing help in the slightest.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No arista, it's an obvious case of "not on my doorstep" only in this case it's quite literal.

Not providing help in the slightest.

Of Course


Katie Hopkins said that on BBC1 London News
a few mins ago

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Z

I read one criticism of this idea earlier that was along the lines of "how dare they insinuate being homeless is a problem" - err, it is a problem!? People aren't homeless by choice, they're homeless because they have nowhere else to go and no opportunities to fix their own problems. It might seem draconian to put down anti-homeless studs in alcoves and other places where people might try and get protection from the elements but it needs to be done IMO... as long as they have somewhere to go instead!! More needs to be done for homeless people.

I agree, that's a point someone was making on Jeremy Vine today how what this really highlights is just how much a problem homelessness is becoming, this is a symptom of that, it isn't meant to be a solution. It might seem cruel but these areas are private property and where people live, it's understandable that they would not want a homeless person sleeping and essentially living on their step. Instead there should be designated areas where people can go or at least have somewhere public available

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

No Joey
there is help
but some Drunk Homeless
are a pain

There is far from help across the board arista with all due respect,more and more organisations that try to help with the homeless are getting less and less as to resources and funds.
Even though there are buildings all over the country lying empty that could even be used temporarily to help with this but it needs investment.
Sadly and in my view disgracefully, particularly the rich companies won't do enough and this present Govt. does almost nothing except for a little lip service.

Also I have to add, never mind the homeless who are drunk,who in the main flop down on a park bench to sleep most of it off unless the Police and others move them on.
I find many other general and far from homeless drunks to be a major pain too at times.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes some would
but there are more important things in life
like getting out of your flat
and smelling Urine

Again, this will not stop people pissing there?

No idea where you get the idea that homeless people actually piss where they sleep. They would go elsewhere to do that..so if anything, this has made that place more likely to be used as a loo as noone can sleep there anymore

Originally Posted by Z

I read one criticism of this idea earlier that was along the lines of "how dare they insinuate being homeless is a problem" - err, it is a problem!? People aren't homeless by choice, they're homeless because they have nowhere else to go and no opportunities to fix their own problems. It might seem draconian to put down anti-homeless studs in alcoves and other places where people might try and get protection from the elements but it needs to be done IMO... as long as they have somewhere to go instead!! More needs to be done for homeless people.

Indeed. Especially the bold bit.