[Kizzy]

Let's hope this is one trend that stays in the US then.


http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-...t-2461450.html

Official homelessness has increased 34 per cent in the last three years – a period that coincides with the start of the recession – and reverses the previous six-year trend of falling homelessness.
http://www.jrf.org.uk/blog/2013/12/h...market-failing

• The private rented sector is being relied on to meet housing demand yet is failing in too many instances – sharply rising numbers are being made homeless across the country because tenancies are ending but they cannot find or afford an alternative. This is now the leading cause of statutory homelessness in London (316% increase in homelessness due to this in the capital between 2009/10 – 2012/13).

http://www.crisis.org.uk/pressreleas...-been-homeless

A range of specialist homelessness funding programmes intended to ameliorate the impact of these negative structural trends on particularly vulnerable groups are also due to end in 2014. It therefore seems that, as in 2010, we may soon be facing another critical juncture in homelessness trends in England.

http://www.crisis.org.uk/data/files/...xecSummary.pdf

[Marsh.]

"get a ******* job"

Is the irony here that they were unemployed themselves perchance?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

"get a ******* job"

Is the irony here that they were unemployed themselves perchance?

Bang On Right

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by James

It reminds me of the scene at the beginning of 'A Clockwork Orange', and that was made at the beginning of the 70s, though it is set in the future.

I agree with the 'not blaming the government for this one' posters.

Exactly, this is not a new thing. I find it quite funny that some people are trying to convince us all that it is

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly, this is not a new thing. I find it quite funny that some people are trying to convince us all that it is

These attitudes don't have to be "new" in order for them to be "increasing"... And you do realise, "Clockwork Orange" is an imagining of a dystopian (then) future where a violent, angry and disaffected youth in a controlling, slowly crumbling society take out their anger on anyone and everyone. It is ABOUT violent youth who have been created by a broken society. It's a world that's starting to become a reality.

I honestly recommend to anyone ; read the book. The film doesn't capture the message (or, the warning?). It was written as almost science fiction. It doesn't seem so far fetched any more. Much like Orwell. These authors saw what was coming.

[user104658]

Of course... They also foresaw people determinedly burying their heads in the sand. Just sayin'.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

These attitudes don't have to be "new" in order for them to be "increasing"... And you do realise, "Clockwork Orange" is an imagining of a dystopian (then) future where a violent, angry and disaffected youth in a controlling, slowly crumbling society take out their anger on anyone and everyone. It is ABOUT violent youth who have been created by a broken society. It's a world that's starting to become a reality.

I honestly recommend to anyone ; read the book. The film doesn't capture the message (or, the warning?). It was written as almost science fiction. It doesn't seem so far fetched any more. Much like Orwell. These authors saw what was coming.

It's not just that film though, I've seen and heard people say things to and about Homeless people like that all my life, not just in the last 4 years. And I maintain that these girls were drunken idiots probably prone to a bit of violence and if that Homeless guy hadn't been around then someone else probably would have annoyed them and got a beating

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

He may have asked for spare change
no need to attack him like that

Or he may have stuck his hands on one of their tits or called them filthy vile slags?

On the street at night, that can get you a kicking

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly, this is not a new thing. I find it quite funny that some people are trying to convince us all that it is

Well you have your opinion and others have their view it seems, nobody is trying to convince you of anything niamh... I've provided some information on the homeless and how their number has increased significantly over the last few years due to policy change, it doesn't prove or disprove anything.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Or he may have stuck his hands on one of their tits or called them filthy vile slags?

On the street at night, that can get you a kicking

No I doubt that

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well you have your opinion and others have their view it seems, nobody is trying to convince you of anything niamh... I've provided some information on the homeless and how their number has increased significantly over the last few years due to policy change, it doesn't prove or disprove anything.

Super

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

No I doubt that

Its about as likely as a group of girl students randomly attacking a street beggar

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's not just that film though, I've seen and heard people say things to and about Homeless people like that all my life, not just in the last 4 years. And I maintain that these girls were drunken idiots probably prone to a bit of violence and if that Homeless guy hadn't been around then someone else probably would have annoyed them and got a beating

I agree with this. There have been homeless people hanging around my local town since I was at school.. and there have always been people who pick a fight with them..

There are also a few homeless people who pick fights with others.. so it's not all one-sided.

I also remember people yelling 'get a ****ing job' at them in the 80s..

None of this is new.

[Kizzy]

I don't know where you live but I can't say whether it's the 'norm' for your town, I've never heard of groups of female university students launching such a vicious assault before, to me that is the most shocking thing.

[Josy]

Drunk females trying to be 'big' filled with the bevvy on a night out, the homeless guy just happened to be the one in the wrong place at the wrong time, could have been anyone really especially when you constantly read in the media about people being attacked during nights out.

Horrible girls though.

[Josy]

In fact it's slightly worrying that some people are trying to make the homeless situation the main issue here when it's not. These girls physically attacked another person and injured them, that's the issue here, not the guy being homeless, not the government.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

In fact it's slightly worrying that some people are trying to make the homeless situation the main issue here when it's not. These girls physically attacked another person and injured them, that's the issue here, not the guy being homeless, not the government.

[lily.]

The town centre is full of drunks looking for trouble where I live... It's always been like that at the weekends.. Whether they pick on each other, some random passer-by, or a homeless person.. they will pick a fight.

I've watched the reality police shows and this seems to be a problem all over Britain. And, there are more girls launching violent attacks than boys nowadays.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by lily.

The town centre is full of drunks looking for trouble where I live... It's always been like that at the weekends.. Whether they pick on each other, some random passer-by, or a homeless person.. they will pick a fight.

I've watched the reality police shows and this seems to be a problem all over Britain. And, there are more girls launching violent attacks than boys nowadays.

I understand you don't think that's a societal issue... understand I do.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Josy

In fact it's slightly worrying that some people are trying to make the homeless situation the main issue here when it's not. These girls physically attacked another person and injured them, that's the issue here, not the guy being homeless, not the government.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

Drunk females trying to be 'big' filled with the bevvy on a night out, the homeless guy just happened to be the one in the wrong place at the wrong time, could have been anyone really especially when you constantly read in the media about people being attacked during nights out.

Horrible girls though.

Yes they Are

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lily.

The town centre is full of drunks looking for trouble where I live... It's always been like that at the weekends.. Whether they pick on each other, some random passer-by, or a homeless person.. they will pick a fight.

I've watched the reality police shows and this seems to be a problem all over Britain. And, there are more girls launching violent attacks than boys nowadays.

All true. And when the Conservatives are out and Labour are back in, as usually happens, there will still be a problem with homelessness, only the same people criticising now will be mysteriously quiet.

The rise in homelessness could be attributed to lots of things, I think the open borders policy has quite a lot to do with it. Many of the homeless people I see in London on a regular basis are eastern European, there has been a noticeable rise in people from there living on the streets.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Josy

In fact it's slightly worrying that some people are trying to make the homeless situation the main issue here when it's not. These girls physically attacked another person and injured them, that's the issue here, not the guy being homeless, not the government.

In a nutshell.

[arista]

Yes These Girls were wrong to gang up on this drunk man

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Josy

In fact it's slightly worrying that some people are trying to make the homeless situation the main issue here when it's not. These girls physically attacked another person and injured them, that's the issue here, not the guy being homeless, not the government.

Well I am one who has done that,because although this is an attack on someone, which is the issue, the person also happens to be homeless.
Had he not been homeless then this thread as to his attack would likely not even need to exist as to him.
They themselves who attacked him made reference to him being homeless and not working by saying get a job.

It is all well and good to condemn the act of the assault and those who did it. however as I myself do on most things you also look at the bigger picture too.

Surely the right thing to do is not to accept that this should be something that should be in any shape or form accepted because there have always been homeless people.

However being homeless is a very relevant part of this issue since the guy was homeless and clearly it seems his attackers knew he was too by saying get a job.

So,I feel it is correct to look at what may be the best solution to ending such attacks, so I look for how to do that.
One thing I don't believe helps in any shape or form is to actually preside over having even more homeless people at the mercy of these mindless attackers.

How is there more homeless recently on the streets?
There you have to look at the big picture again and this Govt,I am sorry for repeating myself, has by its social policies created more homeless through benefit reform and the bedroom tax.
2 things which are indeed very relevant to homeless people and maybe even this victim.

So while I 100% agree, the people and the issues are the attackers and the homeless victim.
To comment on that with no expansion for what may be in some part of the reasons behind such an attack would mean that apart from 2 lines of condemning the attack and the atatckers and hoping the victim is okay after it.
There would with the fullest respect be nothing else to say and this would have been a very dead thread in effect.

Govts are there and elected to, govern and protect the people of this country.
Clearly as in the case of several other govts, this one does nothing to address same.
In fact it is adding to their numbers which is my point and one which I stand by 100%.

This attack was completely wrong and criminal but unless you start to reduce the numbers of homeless or ensure they can be as as safe as they can be, then such attacks are likely to increase against these vulnerable people.
The people with the 'real' power to address that and force a difference is the Govt. of the day so to make reference to that govt. is in my opinion perfectly relevant,with the fullest and due respect.