[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes. There are similarities. Both fearless and speak their minds.

Yeah that's why Heidi and Spencer isolated themselves from everyone and just grumbled to each other talking ****. Soooooooooo fearless and wow she spoke her mind so much.

[Mystic Mock]

At least Speidi took them on though, they didn't turn themselves into victims.

[reece(:]

Can we get security in here?!

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Helen is not fearless....she is actually spineless. She picks on the weakest, isolated housemates. She would not go up against Pauline. She also thinks ses invincible with her pass to the final. I know plenty of girls like Helen (and i know people who know Helen who have comfirmed this) they can talk the talk but when it comes to walking the walk...they walk away.

I know she's bitchy, but she knows when she goes too far and always apologizes. I find her great to watch and i much prefer her to a dullard.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

At least Speidi took them on though, they didn't turn themselves into victims.

They were awesome!

[Macie Lightfoot]

lmfao how could Speidi have taken anyone on when they just complained to each other and avoided everyone else

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I know she's bitchy, but she knows when she goes too far and always apologizes. I find her great to watch and i much prefer her to a dullard.

Agreed, people pick and choose when it's okay to save an entertainer over a dullard though.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Agreed, people pick and choose when it's okay to save an entertainer over a dullard though.

Some of the others also have potential, like Chris, for example. He's funny.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Some of the others also have potential, like Chris, for example. He's funny.

There's potential with Chris, I just don't know at the minute though there is something bugging me about him.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

There's potential with Chris, I just don't know at the minute though there is something bugging me about him.

He's an actor and is using it to his advantage. Good for him!

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Agreed, people pick and choose when it's okay to save an entertainer over a dullard though.

Believe it or not, not everybody has the same opinion on what constitutes as an entertainer or a dullard.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Believe it or not, not everybody has the same opinion on what constitutes as an entertainer or a dullard.

So for example when Arron lost to Conor in BB13 you would actually say that Conor was more entertaining?

[Macie Lightfoot]

But Arron wasn't entertaining either...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He's an actor and is using it to his advantage. Good for him!

Yeah I suppose you're right on that, I just don't know I was expecting more from him than his given so far I think.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

But Arron wasn't entertaining either...

He did way more than the Wannabe Rapist.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Yeah I suppose you're right on that, I just don't know I was expecting more from him than his given so far I think.

I think we will see more of him.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

So for example when Arron lost to Conor in BB13 you would actually say that Conor was more entertaining?

I found neither entertaining. At all. They irritated me in equal measure.

Though, I have to wonder what relevance this has to my post. I don't recall ever suggesting I found Conor entertaining.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

He did way more than the Wannabe Rapist.

Yeah but he didn't do anything good. Like, "doing something" doesn't impress me. Quality and content matters more, all Arron did was obnoxious pranks and irritate me and others. Loud asshole isn't an automatically entertaining trait.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I found neither entertaining. At all. They irritated me in equal measure.

Though, I have to wonder what relevance this has to my post. I don't recall ever suggesting I found Conor entertaining.

I'm on about because you was saying that "people find different things entertaining" part of your post and you think that it's okay for Conor to have survived then? Even though he was horrible and boring.

[Macie Lightfoot]

lmfao yeah I don't even know how this turned into a Conor vs. Arron thing

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I'm on about because you was saying that "people find different things entertaining" part of your post and you think that it's okay for Conor to have survived then? Even though he was horrible and boring.

That's a little irrelevant Mock...the poster didn't say who or what they find entertaining, just that people find different things entertaining. Which is ood as if we all agreed, the forum would be pretty boring and just a giant love in. You are entitled to like Helen and thinks she's entertaining, not everyone will agree with you, but they are just as entitled to find Jale entertaining

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Read the post again and if you don't think that's an example then you really have got rose tinted glasses on.

You didn't provide an example.

You said Jale has been unsociable from Day 1. That's you stating something, not providing an example.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I'm on about because you was saying that "people find different things entertaining" part of your post

Yes, what is entertaining / dull is subjective to the individual. For example, you found Rachel Rice boring, I found her endearing and remain glad to this day that she won. Neither of us are right or wrong, because we clearly value different qualities in housemates. When discussing who is entertaining in BB, we're dealing with opinions, not facts.

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

and you think that it's okay for Conor to have survived then? Even though he was horrible and boring.

No, I don't. I didn't like Conor, and wanted him to be evicted every time he was nominated. Again, where did I even suggest anything like that?

I'm aware that what classes as entertaining varies from person to person. I have my view on the types of housemates who I like to watch, you have yours, others have theirs. That was my point. Obviously, some liked watching Conor, or else he wouldn't have survived at all. I don't feel the same as them, but that's the nature of opinions.

But yeah, I don't really know how we got into all this. I was simply stating how what you find to be entertaining / dull isn't the same for everybody.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

At least Speidi took them on though, they didn't turn themselves into victims.

it didnt get them anywhere, they didnt win