[Lola844]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Hold on there I think you will find hardly anyone thought it was ok what Helen said to Danielle ,where did you pluck that from ?

No people were saying Danielle was homophobic and she deserved it. I didn't see anyone say oh she is being bullied.

[Fish_Fingers]

I think the 2 situations are somewhat different. Danielle, unfortunately, DID make the 'sl@g' comment. She also complained, and complained, and complained a bit more about being ladylike and what-have-you. I'm in no excusing Helen's behaviour, but it's quite easy to see how somebody with a short-temper could get angry in such a situation.

However, in Jale's case, what exactly has she done to make Helen direct so much venom at her? I'm baffled by it...

[Lola844]

Originally Posted by Fish_Fingers

I think the 2 situations are somewhat different. Danielle, unfortunately, DID make the 'sl@g' comment. She also complained, and complained, and complained a bit more about being ladylike and what-have-you. I'm in no excusing Helen's behaviour, but it's quite easy to see how somebody with a short-temper could get angry in such a situation.

However, in Jale's case, what exactly has she done to make Helen direct so much venom at her? I'm baffled by it...

I see so if you say something then you should get bullied...I don't think it works like that my dear. She made a general comment, she didn't say Helen was. Helen took it upon herself to say something to her. While everyone including Danielle's friends did nothing. Then Kim suggested that she should apologize to Helen, and it didn't go well.

[Cherie]

Danielle didn't say it to Helen though, she just made a throw away comment about slags, Helen took it upon herself to wade in, and get very personal. Yet that was fine because "Danielle deserved it",

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Danielle didn't say it to Helen though, she just made a throw away comment about slags, Helen took it upon herself to wade in, and get very personal. Yet that was fine because "Danielle deserved it",

Exactly

[Fish_Fingers]

Originally Posted by Cherie

she just made a throw away comment about slags, Helen took it upon herself to wade in, and get very personal. Yet that was fine because "Danielle deserved it",

No, Danielle didn't "deserve" it, that's not what I'm saying. I'm pointing out that the comment she made was misinterpreted by Helen, and I don't in any way excuse Helen's reaction. Helen is a nasty piece of work with a short temper, which is why I understand how she reacted, but I don't excuse it.

In Jale's case, I don't see any reason for the level of hate from Helen.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Danielle didn't say it to Helen though, she just made a throw away comment about slags, Helen took it upon herself to wade in, and get very personal. Yet that was fine because "Danielle deserved it",

Well the way Steven put it it seemed to Helen like Danielle was calling the girls slags. She was defending herself and her friends.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Well the way Steven put it it seemed to Helen like Danielle was calling the girls slags. She was defending herself and her friends.

See my post above.

[Lola844]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Well the way Steven put it it seemed to Helen like Danielle was calling the girls slags. She was defending herself and her friends.

No she wasn't, she wanted to rant because Tamara was nominated and she was mad.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lola844

No people were saying Danielle was homophobic and she deserved it. I didn't see anyone say oh she is being bullied.

There was some saying it ,no one likes bullies or bullying