[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by calyman

Here life experience has helped to shape the person she is. If she was a Christian (hah), like Danielle, we would expect a certain standard of behaviour from her. If she was an intellectual (hah), we would expect a more cerebral response to things.

The fact is the things we do, say and experience, shapes determines the type of person we become.

She is a foul, rancid, bullying individual, obviously full of self loathing and resentment. I would suggest her previous lifestyle is very much relevant here in explaining how awful and nasty she is.

Clearly there are reasons for why people may become prostitutes; some do it because they are drug addicts, some because they want as much cash as possible for minimal effort, some choose it as a career. I would suggest Helen become one because she wants more than her abilities and accomplishments can provide her. In that sense, she is a nasty, exploitative, mean spirited skank. Therefore her skanky exploits are very much relevant to the type of person she is now.

Then your supposition would be incorrect, she stated it was due to spiraling debt.

'This is the story of an ordinary girl who became a single mother at 16 and then got herself into debt. She had borrowed £500 from a loan shark for a holiday to Spain'

'For almost two years, she slept with men for money. Her most famous client was Wayne Rooney'


http://www.independent.ie/woman/cele...-26750972.html

[calyman]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Then your supposition would be incorrect, she stated it was due to spiraling debt.

'This is the story of an ordinary girl who became a single mother at 16 and then got herself into debt. She had borrowed £500 from a loan shark for a holiday to Spain'

'For almost two years, she slept with men for money. Her most famous client was Wayne Rooney'


http://www.independent.ie/woman/cele...-26750972.html

You have missed the point of what I wrote. Do you really think that anything that comes out of the skank's mouth is true. What she says and what she does are in contradiction to each other.

The original question was, is her prostitute's lifestyle relevant to how she acts today. I trust my insight into how she acts, with how she interacts with others. She takes especial delight in trying to bully Jale, who though a plain looking woman has more beauty as a human than the skank does. The skank is a self loathing individual, not because she became a prostitute but because she became a nasty vindictive, money grubbing prossy, wanting everything for minimal effort. Her past is very much relevant to her present. She has lived as a prostitute, not as a woman in need but as a woman in greed.

If you presume that our past does not influence our present, then clearly we see things very differently.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by calyman

You have missed the point of what I wrote. Do you really think that anything that comes out of the skank's mouth is true. What she says and what she does are in contradiction to each other.

The original question was, is her prostitute's lifestyle relevant to how she acts today. I trust my insight into how she acts, with how she interacts with others. She takes especial delight in trying to bully Jale, who though a plain looking woman has more beauty as a human than the skank does. The skank is a self loathing individual, not because she became a prostitute but because she became a nasty vindictive, money grubbing prossy, wanting everything for minimal effort. Her past is very much relevant to her present. She has lived as a prostitute, not as a woman in need but as a woman in greed.

If you presume that our past does not influence our present, then clearly we see things very differently.

No I haven't, don't do a toya on me You assume you know helens motives because youve decided in your mind she's a 'skank' that's a given.
The OP questions if it's relevent to apply her past actions to her time in the house as I see it... and if you've taken it upon yourself to be judge, jury and executioner there's nothing else to say.

[calyman]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No I haven't, don't do a toya on me You assume you know helens motives because youve decided in your mind she's a 'skank' that's a given.
The OP questions if it's relevent to apply her past actions to her time in the house as I see it... and if you've taken it upon yourself to be judge, jury and executioner there's nothing else to say.

Which is no less valid than you seeking to separate her past lifestyle with how she is today. What gives you the right to make judgements different from mine then accuse me of being "judge jury and executioner" because I see things differently from you.

Me, I don't go for falseness. Clearly what one has done in the past, is very much relevant with how one is in the present. We do not live in a vacuum; we are the people we are because of what we have experienced, learned and done in our past. Some may benefit from gaining insights into their life, Helen is not one of those people. She is nasty and skanky.