[*mazedsalv**]

It's a bit depressing really. Tomorrow and Thursday there is no World Cup competition, it would have been the perfect time to have a 9pm, but sadly it's on at 10pm. Then Friday is against the quarter finals.

I predict 1.2m-1.3m for tomorrow and Thursday. Such a shame, hopefully they pick up when the world cup ends, but it may be a little too late now. Positive I guess is that CBB follows and will most certainly increase surely (not good news for people who dislike CBB), but to be fair, CBB13 was better than BB15. Well CBB13 was the best of all Ch5 series IMO anyway. CBB14 will probably be around the same as CBB10 (2.2m official, 1.8m overnight).No where near as CBB13's 3.04m.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

It's a bit depressing really. Tomorrow and Thursday there is no World Cup competition, it would have been the perfect time to have a 9pm, but sadly it's on at 10pm. Then Friday is against the quarter finals.

I predict 1.2m-1.3m for tomorrow and Thursday. Such a shame, hopefully they pick up when the world cup ends, but it may be a little too late now. Positive I guess is that CBB follows and will most certainly increase surely (not good news for people who dislike CBB), but to be fair, CBB13 was better than BB15. Well CBB13 was the best of all Ch5 series IMO anyway. CBB14 will probably be around the same as CBB10 (2.2m official, 1.8m overnight).No where near as CBB13's 3.04m.

As depressing as it is it is nice to see forum members finally stop making excuses for it, it was getting to the point of the thread just turning into a debate about the football every day.

Its clear its not just the football and people are now realising these overnights are very poor and admitting it, its like im not fighting an army of the glass half full crew.

It is what it is, all we can hope for is they pick up after the footie ends but I don't think its all down to the football. I think its mostly due to a very underwhelming launch and boring first few highlight shows that it just didn't grab people or make them want to tune in.

I feel like it might be the end of civilian BB and who can blame Viacom when they have shows like Geordie Shore that are getting over a million for every episode (season 7 anyway) and is far cheaper. Geordie Shore is still growing as BB was but its taken a battering and has plummeted.

They also have to think of the media interest on social networks and how much publicity that brings in and the Geordie shore cast have over 9 million followers .

Compare that to BB.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

As depressing as it is it is nice to see forum members finally stop making excuses for it, it was getting to the point of the thread just turning into a debate about the football every day.

Its clear its not just the football and people are now realising these overnights are very poor and admitting it, its like im not fighting an army of the glass half full crew.

It is what it is, all we can hope for is they pick up after the footie ends but I don't think its all down to the football. I think its mostly due to a very underwhelming launch and boring first few highlight shows that it just didn't grab people or make them want to tune in.

I feel like it might be the end of civilian BB and who can blame Viacom when they have shows like Geordie Shore that are getting over a million for every episode (season 7 anyway) and is far cheaper. Geordie Shore is still growing as BB was but its taken a battering and has plummeted.

They also have to think of the media interest on social networks and how much publicity that brings in and the Geordie shore cast have over 9 million followers .

Compare that to BB.

I reckon this won't be the last civilian. I think Ch5 would want to promote the last series to **** to ensure more people watch, this way they know they did their best to make it go out on a high.

CBB on the other hand, will be staying for ages yet, especially Jan series.

[Will.]

Yeah it's possible.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Willbrick1999

Series 7 of Geordie shore got between 800,000 - 900,000 views an episode and that was the official not over night. BB gets between 600,000 - 800,000 views more with there officials. Launch got 2.48, nearly 2 million above the opening of Geordie shore series 7.

That's no true.

Including +1 every episode got over 1 million and that is very very impressive for MTV.

Their +1 figures are also on par or higher than Channel 5's at the moment.

Im not talking **** go look at the TOTAL viewers not just the official with +1. (pic at the bottom of post to prove it)

BB costs a lot of money and takes a staff, crew of god knows how many to work 24/7 that's a lot of expense so you have to look at it from a buyers point of view. Is it worth spending all that cash on something when you can get the same or more from something cheaper.

Side note: BB got 60,000 +1 viewers last night so the episode got 1.1million

[Samm]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

That's no true.

Including +1 every episode got over 1 million and that is very very impressive for MTV.

Their +1 figures are also on par or higher than Channel 5's at the moment.

Im not talking **** go look at the TOTAL viewers not just the official with +1. (pic at the bottom of post to prove it)

BB costs a lot of money and takes a staff, crew of god knows how many to work 24/7 that's a lot of expense so you have to look at it from a buyers point of view. Is it worth spending all that cash on something when you can get the same or more from something cheaper.

Side note: BB got 60,000 +1 viewers last night so the episode got 1.1million

ok but there isn't loads of forums based on Geordie shore and a huge online interested that Big Brother has

[Will.]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

That's no true.

Including +1 every episode got over 1 million and that is very very impressive for MTV.

Their +1 figures are also on par or higher than Channel 5's at the moment.

Im not talking **** go look at the TOTAL viewers not just the official with +1. (pic at the bottom of post to prove it)

BB costs a lot of money and takes a staff, crew of god knows how many to work 24/7 that's a lot of expense so you have to look at it from a buyers point of view. Is it worth spending all that cash on something when you can get the same or more from something cheaper.

Side note: BB got 60,000 +1 viewers last night so the episode got 1.1million

Oh didn't see that.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

I reckon this won't be the last civilian. I think Ch5 would want to promote the last series to **** to ensure more people watch, this way they know they did their best to make it go out on a high.

CBB on the other hand, will be staying for ages yet, especially Jan series.

But this is Channel 5's last BB really, Viacom are taking over so theres no way of telling if it will be renewed or moved to another Channel they own.

Channel 5 were probably expecting the show to rate far better seeing as BB14 and CBB in January rated so well. They wouldnt promote it as the last one because they didn't think this would happen.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

But this is Channel 5's last BB really, Viacom are taking over so theres no way of telling if it will be renewed or moved to another Channel they own.

Channel 5 were probably expecting the show to rate far better seeing as BB14 and CBB in January rated so well. They wouldnt promote it as the last one because they didn't think this would happen.

What channels do Viacom own?

[Will.]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

As depressing as it is it is nice to see forum members finally stop making excuses for it, it was getting to the point of the thread just turning into a debate about the football every day.

Its clear its not just the football and people are now realising these overnights are very poor and admitting it, its like im not fighting an army of the glass half full crew.

It is what it is, all we can hope for is they pick up after the footie ends but I don't think its all down to the football. I think its mostly due to a very underwhelming launch and boring first few highlight shows that it just didn't grab people or make them want to tune in.

I feel like it might be the end of civilian BB and who can blame Viacom when they have shows like Geordie Shore that are getting over a million for every episode (season 7 anyway) and is far cheaper. Geordie Shore is still growing as BB was but its taken a battering and has plummeted.

They also have to think of the media interest on social networks and how much publicity that brings in and the Geordie shore cast have over 9 million followers .

Compare that to BB.

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

I reckon this won't be the last civilian. I think Ch5 would want to promote the last series to **** to ensure more people watch, this way they know they did their best to make it go out on a high.

CBB on the other hand, will be staying for ages yet, especially Jan series.

Series 7 of Geordie shore got between 800,000 - 900,000 views an episode and that was the official not over night. BB gets between 600,000 - 800,000 views more with there officials. Launch got 2.48, nearly 2 million above the opening of Geordie shore series 7.