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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

As depressing as it is it is nice to see forum members finally stop making excuses for it, it was getting to the point of the thread just turning into a debate about the football every day.

Its clear its not just the football and people are now realising these overnights are very poor and admitting it, its like im not fighting an army of the glass half full crew.

It is what it is, all we can hope for is they pick up after the footie ends but I don't think its all down to the football. I think its mostly due to a very underwhelming launch and boring first few highlight shows that it just didn't grab people or make them want to tune in.

I feel like it might be the end of civilian BB and who can blame Viacom when they have shows like Geordie Shore that are getting over a million for every episode (season 7 anyway) and is far cheaper. Geordie Shore is still growing as BB was but its taken a battering and has plummeted.

They also have to think of the media interest on social networks and how much publicity that brings in and the Geordie shore cast have over 9 million followers .

Compare that to BB.

I reckon this won't be the last civilian. I think Ch5 would want to promote the last series to **** to ensure more people watch, this way they know they did their best to make it go out on a high.

CBB on the other hand, will be staying for ages yet, especially Jan series.