[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

His biggest mistake wasn't getting rid of IDS for his universal credit shambles.

He dare not Kizzy, it was rumoured he wanted to see about moving this awful man from works and pensions at his last re-shuffle but that Ian Duncan Smith would have refused to go anddo another post so then would have likely been a real pain for David Cameron if not in the Cabinet.

For me the fact Ian Duncan Smith remains in his post removes any thoughts that this Govt has changed at all,in fact it strengthens my view that despite these minor changes, the Govt; this Cabinet and the Prime Minister are as rotten,arrogant and heartless as ever and no way should they be trusted with Governing.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He dare not Kizzy, it was rumoured he wanted to see about moving this awful man from works and pensions at his last re-shuffle but that Ian Duncan Smith would have refused to go anddo another post so then would have likely been a real pain for David Cameron if not in the Cabinet.

For me the fact Ian Duncan Smith remains in his post removes any thoughts that this Govt has changed at all,in fact it strengthens my view that despite these minor changes, the Govt; this Cabinet and the Prime Minister are as rotten,arrogant and heartless as ever and no way should they be trusted with Governing.

I don't know how the human centipede that is the conservative party function but why would IDS cause probs for cameron if ousted?
Is there bad blood?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't know how the human centipede that is the conservative party function but why would IDS cause probs for cameron if ousted?
Is there bad blood?

That I cannot say,however there were rumours that David Cameron wanted to move him from work and pensions last time but the feeling was Ian Duncan Smith refused to go to any other post,that would have meant Cameron would have had to in effect remove him.

The fact he caved in and left him in place and has again this time despite all the warnings and problems that are happening to this benefit changes,would indicate this former leader Ian Duncan Smith maybe is a hard man to deal with.
Also Ian Duncan Smith is in the main the architect of these vile welfare reforms too,his ideas, his way.
He is determined to acheive his aim of creating misery against those most vulnerable.
So from the backbenches could be a real thorn in a serving PM's side.

How anyone like Ian Duncan Smith,with the heartlessness and total dismissive attitude he has towards those in the greatest need,is even in Parliament, never mind be a Cabinet Minister, astounds me.
He should have been thrown on the political scrapheap when the Conservatives dumped him very sharply as their leader,never allowing him to even fight one election for them as leader.