[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

I've said it before and I'll say it again: those who run BB do not give a tuppenny damn about who wins..

They will have their favourites, but I agree that they don't care. But this has been blatantly set up to get Ashleigh out and imo it is being done to rub a certain kind of viewers (people who go on the fan sites and forums) face in it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

They will have their favourites, but I agree that they don't care. But this has been blatantly set up to get Ashleigh out and imo it is being done to rub a certain kind of viewers (people who go on the fan sites and forums) face in it.

It's not really a given that they'd go for Ashleigh tbf, Danielle is also a viable option as is Steven and Kim

[karezza]

I hope ugly liar Danielle is evicted and then Ashleigh walks.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You can't use Aarons year as an example because that was the one year where the online community had all the power with the FB voting, I was even able to vote.....multiple times for Aaron.... note they stopped that after his win

Of course you can. Aaron was topping every popularity poll on every fan site and forum.

The man would have won regardless of whether there was FB voting. He is exactly the sort of person the middle aged women who vote on these things vote for.

The point though is that you can have more detractors than another person, whilst still having a hell of a lot more supporters.

Christopher is always saved first... Does that mean he's more popular than Ashleigh? Of course he isn't.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's not really a given that they'd go for Ashleigh tbf, Danielle is also a viable option as is Steven and Kim

It's the easiest and most obvious option. And it always has been. Hence them doing it.

And if the production team didn't have a problem with Steven going out they would have done what they said they were going to do and put everyone up for eviction.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's not really a given that they'd go for Ashleigh tbf, Danielle is also a viable option as is Steven and Kim

They are only options if the 3 new housemates actually have the POWER. If Big Brother has the power, Big Brother choose who goes and makes all the decisions.

They are on a POWER TRIP

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Of course you can. Aaron was topping every popularity poll on every fan site and forum.

The man would have won regardless of whether there was FB voting. He is exactly the sort of person the middle aged women who vote on these things vote for.

The point though is that you can have more detractors than another person, whilst still having a hell of a lot more supporters.

Christopher is always saved first... Does that mean he's more popular than people Ashleigh? Of course he isn't.

I'm pretty positive I can use Aaron as an example actually. And it wasn't just "middle aged women" who were Aaron fans, he had wide range of fans on the forums and alot of the general public disliked him. I've never seen a winner get such a bad reaction from both the eviction crowd and BOTs themselves

[Mitchell]

Think: Kimberly and Zoe
Want: Danielle and Pav

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm pretty positive I can use Aaron as an example actually. And it wasn't just "middle aged women" who were Aaron fans, he had wide range of fans on the forums and alot of the general public disliked him. I've never seen a winner get such a bad reaction from both the eviction crowd and BOTs themselves

Yes, I know that. But you used Ashleigh being in the top 2 with Jale as an example of her not being popular and also the eviction crowd response. It is meaningless. She's a divisive character who was up against 2 non-entities in the two Chris's. She was always going to poll more votes in a vote to evict than those 2... But her popularity is there to be seen on every poll on every fan site and forum. Just like Aaron, Deana, Luke A, Gina, Dexter and Sam.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm pretty positive I can use Aaron as an example actually. And it wasn't just "middle aged women" who were Aaron fans, he had wide range of fans on the forums and alot of the general public disliked him. I've never seen a winner get such a bad reaction from both the eviction crowd and BOTs themselves

The eviction crowd and BotS crowd are 2 cheeks of the same arse. They are irrelevant because they only represent an insignificant fraction of the viewers.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by karezza

I hope ugly liar Danielle is evicted and then Ashleigh walks.

Whats all this rubbish about Ashleigh walking. Never in a million years will she walk. The daft little bint has laid that out there so she saves face when shes oiked so she can say I am so glad to be out. They all do it.

Danielle is the target this week from the prods side as she has outlived her usefulness. The prods are crapping themselves in case steven goes so they have given him tasks and are trying their best to deflect hatred away from him by allowing the newbees to promote the big bad Daniella's seedy past.

For what its worth, I think they are wrong, but hey ho, who gives a crap anyway as there isnt one of them in there worthy of the win. BB have already decided who wins and its defo not a female. Rylans mate Mark has the keys in his hand and only Chris or Winston can upset that plan.

Mark is a cross between Gok wan and Joe Pasquale and would make a perfect CH5 documentary or spin off show. Winston is TOWIE material and Chris is an enigma with a clever head that wouldnt be easily manipulated in the tv corporate world.

[Adamw92]

Kimberly

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Tea leaves say Ashleigh. Tea leaves NEVER wrong. Not MY tea leaves

I have a feeling they're gonna pick either Ashleigh or Chris.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's not really a given that they'd go for Ashleigh tbf, Danielle is also a viable option as is Steven and Kim

What is the reason for the producers to decide to evict 2 housemates without any public vote? What is the motive?

[sampvt]

It may not happen but if Kimberly was oiked I would be very happy. I would love to see what the wanker does and the meltdown brought about by his jealousy. Sadly I think Danielle is a producers target and who knows what they are saying to the newbees behind closed doors. This week stinks of a set up against Danielle but in the fullness of time, all will be revealed. I am more interested to see who gets oiked on the newbee side, thats more interesting.

[Crimson Dynamo]

11.30 am Forium poster makes schoolboy error of getting involved in Aaron feud with Neem

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by sampvt

It may not happen but if Kimberly was oiked I would be very happy. I would love to see what the wanker does and the meltdown brought about by his jealousy. Sadly I think Danielle is a producers target and who knows what they are saying to the newbees behind closed doors. This week stinks of a set up against Danielle but in the fullness of time, all will be revealed. I am more interested to see who gets oiked on the newbee side, thats more interesting.

I have a strange feeling he will forget her after a couple of days...

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

I have a strange feeling he will forget her after a couple of days...

I think his desire to win and the fake showmance will win over and he will say something like.....well she loves me so much she will wait and I trust her but if someone else wants my love snake, thats her loss and I am so rich i dont care as I can get 100 Kimberly's when I get out and my new celeb status hits the airways and celeb circuit.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Achilles

What is the reason for the producers to decide to evict 2 housemates without any public vote? What is the motive?

The theme of the show is the motive, Power, and the HMs having it

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The theme of the show is the motive, Power, and the HMs having it

The theme is Big Brother are on a power trip. Big Brother has the power, not the housemates.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Achilles

The theme is Big Brother are on a power trip. Big Brother has the power, not the housemates.

The HMs have had the Power since the start and all the way through, the Power it give a HM a fast pass to the final, the Power to give a HM the Killer nom, the Power to save 3 HMs from eviction, the Power to put one HM straight up for eviction, the Power to veto 3 HMs noms and now the Power to send a HM home, it's been the running theme that certain HMs have certain Powers since the very beginning

[JTM45]

I really hope they don't waste an opportunity and just get rid of Ashleigh because they see it as an easy option because she said a couple of times that she wants to go! I think Kimberly would be the best choice just so we could watch Steven have a full-on brat tantrum and probably walk out himself a day later!
Out of the newbs i'd rather one of the two girls went because i think they're both awful judges of character ("Steven's lovely....such a gentleman and really intelligent too") and Pav's got much more to say and what he does say is well thought out and observant.
BB will probably decide for them anyway though.

[Mick]

Based on the little we have been shown of the newbies thoughts I think it might be Kim.
Hope I am wrong as I would like it to be Steven but he appears to have done a number on them.

I still think the false eviction safe house thing is on the cards.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The HMs have had the Power since the start and all the way through, the Power it give a HM a fast pass to the final, the Power to give a HM the Killer nom, the Power to save 3 HMs from eviction, the Power to put one HM straight up for eviction, the Power to veto 3 HMs noms and now the Power to send a HM home, it's been the running theme that certain HMs have certain Powers since the very beginning

My reply would be my thread on BB manipulation

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mick

Based on the little we have been shown of the newbies thoughts I think it might be Kim.
Hope I am wrong as I would like it to be Steven but he appears to have done a number on them.

I still think the false eviction safe house thing is on the cards.

I don't think so, i think they need to start reducing the numbers