[Achilles]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I am not writing venom about Ashleigh, I don't really care for her as I cannot stand 2 faced people, something someone bullied I would have thought would set out to avoid doing at all.

I have every right to put my point as to her as I see what her actions are in the house, not out of it, and I don't like what I see,I have never made a thread about Ashleigh because I don't care for her, you however cannot resist any little dig at Helen even as to her son and herself as a Mother recently.

However, those who dislike Helen have every right to say their thoughts from their perspective of watching her in the house just as everyone else can about Ashleigh too.
Ashleigh was not forced to go on BB, she applied and chose to and if she does things people find offensive, ignorant and 2 faced, she will get that criticism rightly levelled at her just as Helen's gets too.

A teenager, come on jet, Helen is hardly collossus,teenagers can say plenty with no fear at all to people older than them.
I considered myself an adult at 18, Ashleigh is also one, or are you saying she isn't.
She is also an equal housemate,so for me,in that case, if she has to have special consideration since she is 'only 18', (that old chestnut again),then no way should she be or should she have gone in the BB house at all.
It is never a picnic for anyone in the BB house and she well knew that before she went in I would dare bet.

You say did I expect a teenager to stand up against Helen,who you claim to be a bully which is to me incorrect anyway.
Yes, I would expect her to, she is on TV monitored by BB,what on earth could happen to her if she stood up to anyone, nothing at all.

If she has been bullied in life as you state, then how really sad and bad of her to then victimise Ash just to get at Helen, by attempting to wreck his chances in the series by manipulating others to make sure he stayed up for eviction.

I tell you this, if she has really been bullied in her past, then sadly she hasn't learned anything at all from that other than be nasty to others herself too.
That shouldn't inspire admiration and respect for her,it should bring out contempt in my opinion.

Ashleigh and Ash hated each other at the start. "Victimize" Ash She made him a target because at that time he was one of the nasty housemates. Team Bully: Helen, Ash and the rest of the cool kids gang. We only see a fraction of what goes on in there. Only last night they edited out the part where Ash was talking about Jale in the garden. Upload he says "Jale was a twat, at the time". That was completely edited out for main highlights show. The producers are always on the side of the bully, that is why they push Helen and Ash gang and protect them. Just like they protected Conor and rewarded him with Ł50k when they realized they couldn't win. The producers are nasty and they support their own. Nasty housemates get a good edit, nice housemates get a bad edit.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Ashleigh and Ash hated each other at the start. "Victimize" Ash She made him a target because at that time he was one of the nasty housemates. Team Bully: Helen, Ash and the rest of the cool kids gang. We only see a fraction of what goes on in there. Only last night they edited out the part where Ash was talking about Jale in the garden. Upload he says "Jale was a twat, at the time". That was completely edited out for main highlights show. The producers are always on the side of the bully, that is why they push Helen and Ash gang and protect them. Just like they protected Conor and rewarded him with Ł50k when they realized they couldn't win. The producers are nasty and they support their own. Nasty housemates get a good edit, nice housemates get a bad edit.

Really sorry Achilles but that is wrong, at the time of the all female pwer week and Ashleigh orchestrating the other women against saving Ash, Ash had not done or said anything really unpleasant at all to Ashleigh.
She only wanted to make sure Ash stayed up for eviction because she knew Helen was desperate to try to spare him that.

That I am sorry is a fact and you have said many things as an Ashleigh fan that have been balanced in many ways but I am sad you overlook that fact.
She only seized the all guys up for eviction week to use Ash to get at Helen in that particular week.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Really sorry Achilles but that is wrong, at the time of the all female pwer week and Ashleigh orchestrating the other women against saving Ash, Ash had not done or said anything really unpleasant at all to Ashleigh.
She only wanted to make sure Ash stayed up for eviction because she knew Helen was desperate to try to spare him that.

That I am sorry is a fact and you have said many things as an Ashleigh fan that have been balanced in many ways but I am sad you overlook that fact.
She only seized the all guys up for eviction week to use Ash to get at Helen in that particular week.

Joey telling that hurtfull truth again

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Her mother is notorious on twitter for being pushy and the word from people in Derry that know the family say they are a bunch of fame hungry idiots.

Originally Posted by sampvt

Thank god you are not a lawyer, lol. It isn't up to me to disprove you, you made the post and if your claims are to be believed IT IS UP TO YOU TO PROVE YOUR STATEMENT.

Another poster asked you to back up your claims about Ashleigh's 'notorious mother' and you haven't yet as far as I can see.

According to yourself, you need to prove your claims.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Another poster asked you to back up your claims about Ashleigh's 'notorious mother' and you haven't yet as far as I can see.

According to yourself, you need to prove your claims.

Yeah that was me.

Don't even bother the proof will never come.

I cant understand why someone simply wont post a link to her mothers Twitter account especially if it backs up their argument.