[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by sampvt

The problem is that the US version is described as a game show. BB here is described as a REALITY TV SHOW. The GBP cant get their head around the fact that being real is a virtue, being a gamer is a sin and therefore not yet accepted in this country and indeed in our psychic.

Lies and deception are the norm in the USA, here we treat lies and deception as a cheat, ergo the phrase Game player is abused and taken out of context. BBBOTS started it with its just a game, but they are wrong, its a reality show that's perceived by some as a game but the rules state the HM's should be real as the rules state. No this and that and they have now crossed the line by allowing outside contact so the whole shows ethos has become a toy for the prods to use to invent another ethos to the shows ever declining support.

If its a game show, why show back stories before they go in as we expect them to be true to these back stories. The GBP are programmed to accept games as games which have rules. Reality tv is different. Sadly some people cant differentiate between The price is right as a game show and BB as a reality show. one has rules the other does not.

I agree with you.

The problem lies with the £100.000 prize at the end, which constitutes it as a game show, but it's also a reality show.

Many people like things to be black and white, clear and simple, but BB isn't it's confusing.

I would rather it be like a game show to stop all this nonsense of 'oh they're a game player' because it winds me right up!

Or to remove the £100.000 prize and have it as a reality show, simple!

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

I agree with you.

The problem lies with the £100.000 prize at the end, which constitutes it as a game show, but it's also a reality show.

Many people like things to be black and white, clear and simple, but BB isn't it's confusing.

I would rather it be like a game show to stop all this nonsense of 'oh they're a game player' because it winds me right up!

Or to remove the £100.000 prize and have it as a reality show, simple!

Or even better, I have always said that the introduction of the HM's is the problem. Why don't they remove the Back story videos and send 14 people in to say and pretend who they want to be and let them fight it out. That way lying and cheating become an act and not a sin. When they come out, we then have a story to look forward to as to who they really are.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Or even better, I have always said that the introduction of the HM's is the problem. Why don't they remove the Back story videos and send 14 people in to say and pretend who they want to be and let them fight it out. That way lying and cheating become an act and not a sin. When they come out, we then have a story to look forward to as to who they really are.

Yes. Something of this sort needs to happen.

I'm fed up to the back teeth of back stories!

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Or even better, I have always said that the introduction of the HM's is the problem. Why don't they remove the Back story videos and send 14 people in to say and pretend who they want to be and let them fight it out. That way lying and cheating become an act and not a sin. When they come out, we then have a story to look forward to as to who they really are.

I like the idea of this, that way we makeup our own minds and aren't distracted by the back stories, great idea!

[Fish_Fingers]

What's even worse is the ridiculous notion that HMs actually don't care about winning the cash prize, they just want "the experience of getting to the final."

Why don't these people try doing voluntary work, at an old people's home for example, and filming it as a documentary? They can be as real as like in such a setting, upload it to YouTube and let people see how wonderful they are that way. Oh that's right, there's no cash incentive for doing something like that.

[Jamesy]

Originally Posted by Fish_Fingers

What's even worse is the ridiculous notion that HMs actually don't care about winning the cash prize, they just want "the experience of getting to the final."

Why don't these people try doing voluntary work, at an old people's home for example, and filming it as a documentary? They can be as real as like in such a setting, upload it to YouTube and let people see how wonderful they are that way. Oh that's right, there's no cash incentive for doing something like that.

Eurgh yes! It's always said by housemates towards the end of the show that pretty much know they have no chance of winning. "I don't care if I don't win, I've been here for the experience" - so you wanted to waste 3 months of your life for an experience of being locked up in a house with 15 strangers, don't think so.

[RockBottom]

Originally Posted by Fish_Fingers

What's even worse is the ridiculous notion that HMs actually don't care about winning the cash prize, they just want "the experience of getting to the final."

Why don't these people try doing voluntary work, at an old people's home for example, and filming it as a documentary? They can be as real as like in such a setting, upload it to YouTube and let people see how wonderful they are that way. Oh that's right, there's no cash incentive for doing something like that.

Organizing the entertainment?

[Jamesy]

Like I said, maybe the UK version evolving into more of a 'game' would benefit our version far more. They don't have to copy BBUS or change the show so it is a 'game'. But they could takes steps that make sure the whole point of Big Brother is that it's a game show/reality show crossover. They both go hand in hand. Just by mentioning game plans more to potential housemates and questioning them about 'game plans' in the house might ease the public into welcoming the idea of that more. Rather than now where we see game player only used as an argument about someone, rather than an aspect of the show. It would still be reality, but more of a concentration on housemates doing what they need to do to win.

Originally Posted by sampvt

Or even better, I have always said that the introduction of the HM's is the problem. Why don't they remove the Back story videos and send 14 people in to say and pretend who they want to be and let them fight it out. That way lying and cheating become an act and not a sin. When they come out, we then have a story to look forward to as to who they really are.

I think that would be a right step ahead. The main problem with VTs about who they are, their back stories and their lives is that we (the public) already have a judgement before they even enter the house. If housemates do not stick to who they are in their VTs then they are branded as a game player. When really applying for BB is like applying for a job, or for a university course, most of it is BS in order for you to get the job/a place on the course. Big Brother is no different in that respect. The only realistic way to get on the show is if you overblow who you really are to sell yourself.